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CHRON: Bonzi happy to be playing with Rockets, Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by doublehh03, Oct 8, 2007.

  1. abcdef

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    Bonzi was also speaking his mind when he said that since the Rockets paid him 25% of what he was worth, he'd give 25% effort. JVG didn't tell him to show up to camp looking like Nigel Dixon.

    The stuff you hear now is a skewed and biased version of what happened previously, only it's skewed against JVG since he's fired, combined with preseason fluff and irrational exuberance to pump up the new coach. I don't put much stock in it at all.
     
  2. IMissJVG

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    That's why I don't read Fran Blinebury articles. Because they're garbage! And the editor that let it come out, IS GARBAGE!
     
  3. hotblooded

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    Some coaches runs a tight ship
    others gives players more freedom

    I am pretty sure JVG's style is more similar to Pop and Brown's methods

    and those two are coaches with heaps of success
     
  4. GermanRoxFan

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    can we cut him right now?

    what an idiot...
     
  5. Old Man Rock

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    Yeah no doubt Bonzi hated JVG and that definitely skewed his words. And if he were the only one bad mouthing the guy then I would say it's just a bitter guy hating. But he is not, even Yao had this to say,...


    Vassalis Spanoulis and Steve Novak were not given chance to play because they were rookies. Bonzi Wells was abandoned and I am certainly not at all surprised, because he and the head coach were having personality clashes. But later in the series, Kirk Snyder was also dropped, and this I just could not comprehend. Each NBA team needs to have an energy player, who just plays with energy and hustle once sent on court. We need such an energy player, playing against Utah Jazz. Moreover, (I think) this also conforms to the style of our head coach. Kirk Snyder is also very familiar with the (play style of) Utah Jazz. I just could not understand why he (Jeff Van Gundy) did not use Snyder. In this playoff series, if we have an energy player like Mike James, we definitely will have won the series. Well, in lieu of Mike James, if Kirk Snyder had played, we might have come up with better results.

    Certainly Van Gundy lovers will try to skew this a different way but it's clear Yao was trashing Van Gundy's style of coaching and this is coming from someone who never says anything bad about anyone. So suffice it to say he was the wrong coach for this team and he is gone. Yeah it's a cheap shot to say JVG should only be coaching kids but it does seem his style of coaching doesn't fit the NBA anymore. And please don't compare him to Pop who may be hard on his players but is respected by his players because he is consistent. Enough said
     
  6. TheBornLoser

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    I think we should just take the article at face value, i.e. that it is one player expressing his opinion of the previous coach and of his unhappiness back then, and be done with it. To solely lay the blame at JVG's door, without even taking into consideration Bonzi's lack of commitment and truancy, is to take an unfair position on this matter. As fans, we should hope that both our players and coach want the best and perform to their best for the organisation. Bonzi has not special circumstance to not perform his best for the Rockets and therefore should not merit any special treatment for his lack of commitment to the Rockets last season.
     
  7. Shroopy2

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    That's THE BOARD not letting the JVG thing go? This is straight from Bonzi's mouth, no one wanted to see him say that.

    Nice attitude btw, Bonzi.
     
  8. ReD_1

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    I'm happy too :D
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Bonzi is a royal jerk and always has been. Hopefully he's finally done taking a dump with his mouth and will let his play do the talking instead. Just shut up, play good and make no more excuses for last season except to take responsibility. Thankfully, when it comes to the Rockets, JVG is dead dead dead. Stop digging him up from the grave. Adelman is in charge. Praise RA all you want and leave JVG alone. Then again, from Portland, to Memphis to Houston, Bonzi has never shown any class and he is what he is.
     
  10. ktvoss

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    Ginobli isn't told to just shoots threes or just pass the ball either. If that was the case it would be useless to yell at him.
     
  11. ktvoss

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    Too many JVG lovers when the team does better this upcoming year the excuse will only be that they added more therefore they are better and under JVG they would have done the same and I will say this right now that is BS!
     
  12. blazer_ben

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    We got 52 wins simply due to McGrady's brilliance. he picked this team up and led right from the front. i dont buy that gundy boughtout the best in our roster. he's lack of creativity on offense didnt bringout squat.

    For exampel, look at chuck hayes. in a offense where he is allowed to play more freely, he is turningout out to be a very good passer. for all we know that might be more players even like luther who were handicapped by gundy. trust me, luther is more then just a jump shooter. snyder can ball, but he never got the opportunity.
     
  13. Codman

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    I'm all for those JVG cheap shots, and I agree with them quite a bit. I do think JVG treated his players like little ass kids, and never gave them time to grow, because they always feared making a mistake. Cocah A reminds me alot of Rudy T...a passion for winning, but at the same time, being a player's coach. The whole issue of support comes into to play...I think Coach A supports his players.


    Cod
     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    This is funny. Before we hired JVG, everyone kept saying that this team needed some discipline. People said they had too much freedom out there so we hired JVG. Now, JVG is gone and everybody is praising about how Adelman lets players be players and have more freedom out there. So what happens if this doesn't work out? Are folks going to start crying for a more disciplinary coach?
     
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    MISTAKES ARE NEVER OKAY!

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  16. DaDakota

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    Preach on PREACHER !!

    Anyone can tall that JVG had issues, good to see those are coming out to the public....

    DD
     
  17. meh

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    Actually, I think this is where personnel comes in. I don't believe Adelman can get us more than 52 wins last season, and that JVG did the best he could in help getting us such a great record. However, I am a firm believer that Adelman is better suited for this particular Rockets team.

    It was the same as Rudy. When he had veteran leaders like Hakeem, Otis, Clyde, Charles, etc. the Rockets were great. Because these guys do not need discipline and simply needs play. But the moment those guys retired, and the team became much younger, things fell apart because Rudy could instill discipline into the young team.

    Our current group, IMO, would work fine under Rudy, because they have enough self-discipline to make things work. Just as I believe they can make the right decisions within the confines of RA's system(Francis seemingly becoming the lone exception).
     
  18. MaxRider

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    no need for coach if let players just play their games
     
  19. ktvoss

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    It's more like letting the players play their game within a structure that not only benefits each individual player but also gets all you can get from all the players as a whole.
     
  20. doublehh03

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    the season is 82 games or just 10 games? tmac came in OUT OF SHAPE last yr too coming off an injury believe it or not. hell, he played out of shape the whole yr at 235 lbs.

    but yes, bonzi did have kind of a bad attitude but u gotta give it to him. let him play through it. JVG let him play BARELY. u can ALWAYS play yourself INTO shape u know.

    shaq did that w/ the lakers EVERY year his last 3 yrs there.
     

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