CHRON: Bonzi happy to be playing with Rockets, Adelman

Bonzi should STFU.

 

With Vspan also , he tried to make him a spot up shooter.
And NO I am not saying it's JVG's fault Vspan didn't work out.
JVG just can't get the best out of his players , because of his charachter and philosphy imo.
And Wells said it , they are grown men and when you give them respect and responsibility and believe in them , they will feel that they need and they will want to give back 100% effort , and they won't do it unhappily.

 

if Bonzi is a grown man like himself claimed, he'd be professional and report to camp in shape last season. have you seen Pop yelled at Ginobli?

 

Isn't the chronicle, getting tired of beating a dead horse? The JVG era is over time to move on.

 

i love bonzi but he needs to be a bit more careful in his wording... saying that jvg is better suited to coach kids is quite an unnecessary cheapshot in my opinion. granted, jvg may have been too controlling, but that is a bit much.

in all honesty, as long as we are winning, then bonzi can say whatever he wants...

 

I want to see how motivated and in shape you will be after you lost 30 something million dollars.
It was bothering all of last season , now he put it behind him and to this camp he came in great shape and motivated.
So I guess he is a professional.

 

I suppose this was to be expected. The easiest people to bash are the ones that are no longer around.

When JVG was hired, he was lauded for fixing the poor culture of SF/Mobley doing whatever the hell they wanted on the court. Now we're using the euphemism "letting the players play their game" to say how awesome it is that players will be allowed to do whatever the hell they want, which was exactly what we didn't want 4 years ago. I suppose when Adelman is fired and we hire a disciplinarian like Larry Brown the talk will go the other way again.

 

I think Bonzi has it backwards. He wants to be treated like a grown man, but grown men know how to take orders. JVG ran the team like an army, Bonzi had to know how to follow. It's not a coaches job to stroke a player's ego when they show up non-committal and out of shape. That's on Bonzi, first and foremost.

Remember why Adelman got fired from the kings? Their excuse was that he didn't coach any defense. His response? "They should have given me more defensive players." You're looking at two opposite approaches when it comes to JVG and Adelman. RA tailors his gameplan to the player, JVG wants the player to stick with his. If JVG were coaching that kings team, they would have played defense. In 05/06, we had real defensive stalwarts like Alston, Head, Swift, and Juwan playing major minutes and we were still one of the best defensive teams in the league. Maybe RA could get more out of his players if his vision wasn't limited to their natural talents.

I don't want to get into who's the better head coach. Sometimes, good players and coaches just don't see eye to eye and I don't think either side deserves the blame. Bonzi just isn't a JVG player. And don't even bring up Vspan. That guy complained about having to play too much man D. If he's got a problem with that, he's not even an NBA player.

 

Bonzi is really happly for Adelman's coming, that is the reason why he comes back this season. I hope that he can far away from injury, especially in playoff.

 

LOL. What a joke. The guy came into camp looking like Oliver Miller's younger brother and people still find reasons to blame the situation the coach.

 

Bonzi speaks the truth.

 

Bonzi said letting the players play their game , what I think he meant is that Adelman is trying to make it easier and he plays more to their strengths , it's within his system on offense but they still get chances to do what they do best each player.
With JVG for Example he had more defined roles and he didn't play to players' strengths as much.
For example Alston had to shoot so many three's , yes it's because the double teams but find a way so that this player will not need to shoot so much when he is not a good shooter.
Snyder didn't play because he couldn't shoot and missed defensive rotations , we were a jumpshooting team so Snyder can't play.
Both Yao and T-Mac thought Snyder should play more and could have helped us but he didn't fit the T-Mac and Yao creating everything and the rest just shooting system.

 

When I would see any one of those youtube videos showing T-Mac's 13 point outburst within the last 35 seconds of that one game three years ago that lead to that rather improbable Rockets' win over the Spurs, I could see Pop yelling at Ginobli after he had removed him from that game during that stretch because of some dangerous crosscourt inbound pass he had made that nearly resulted in a steal for the Rockets. You would see that occurrence early-on in any one of those given videos, at least 1 minute in.

 

is this place ever going to let the jvg thing go?

 

yes, He should

I really miss Jon Barry and his unique way to pass in fastbreak.

 

hahaha

Although another interesting thing to note. Has anyone looked at the Portland Bonzi?

I'd say there were 3 phases of Bonzi.

Portland/Memphis - he looked passably normal. Big guy but nothing crazy, just a guy with good size for a SG. He actually had a midrange game at this time and didn't just camp out on the post and in the paint. Also, the dude was pretty athletic. He definitely made some pretty sweet plays in Portland.

Sacramento - the guy got bigger. He was noticeably less mobile and really started to post up and hang around the basket more which was fine in Sacramento since they didn't have a post presence to begin with.(unlike Portland with Sabonis, Wallace etc.. or in Memphis with Pau Gasol) Hence why he was averaging career highs in rebounding. Also, he didn't have to do that much since the system basically created offense for him. Plus he got tons of points off of put backs and offensive rebounds.

Houston - the Oliver Miller phase. Now he's gone back down to Sacramento Bonzi which is still bigger than what he once was. I'd like him to be in Portland shape but that's unrealistic at this point. But I suppose we could use the rebounding. He was much less of a defensive liability in Portland though. His lateral movement is still pretty crappy or at least in Sacramento it was.

 

The more I hear talk of JVG after he's not our coach anymore, the more it seems like he wasn't handling this team the right way. He seems more and more like an @sshole, and it seems he tried turning the players into robots instead of letting them be themselves. If we got 52 wins with him as coach, imagine how many we could get with Adelman. I'm glad Bonzi is speaking his mind. I'd have done the same thing.

 

Wow. denniscd was 100% right. The JVG cheap shots have already arrived, courtesy of Fran Blinebury.