[Chron] Bob McNair: Carr's future remains in limbo

No way do I label Mario a bust. (did I say that?)

Most of the nation thought we should have drafted Reggie Bush. That was the point.

I thought we should have drafted VY.

No way I would have drafted Mario #1- maybe #5 but not #1.
I might have risked drafting Mario #1 if VY, Leinhart and Bush were not in the draft.

 

I think they plan on getting rid of Carr but it might not happen this season because they want to make sure they are getting something better at the right price etc.

 

there's a lot riding on this offseason; fans are jumping off the bandwagon left and right while many more are getting ready to and carr is the focus of their ire. mcnair knows this, and would be a fool to offer anything but a begruding "he struggled" and an otherwise no comment.

but a "no comment" provides fodder for a rag like the chronicle to run to their own conclusions - how is that going to enhance his trade value? there are literally three articles in today's paper that paint carr as a goner, including a ludicrously awful lopez piece in which he's now recats the williams pick as "safe." unbelievable.

anyway, carr may very well be gone. but i doubt it unless a better plan b emerges. this, to me, was the telling quote: "We’ve got to get better consistency there, either with David or with some additional help." if carr was in "limbo," they wouldn't need "additional help;" they'd be seeking alternatives. he later lists RB and WR as top priorities. my guess is their plan is to throw as many offensive "distractions" at the carr sitch as humanly possible, which is why i think their first pick is going to be an offensive player and they're going to make a lot of noise in FA with offensive players.

 

I read this yesterday...Not surprising and I hope something happens soon...I believe the decision has already been made...Jake comes here, we draft Kolb and everyone lives happily never After..

We take the cap hit but its for the good of the franchise to move on...Only problem is, wtf do I do with my Carr Jersey...

 

I don't know, maybe I'm reading more into his comments than you. I didn't see it as a 'no comment' at all. Perhaps he's trying to walk the fine line of hinting that he's not happy with Carr (to the season ticket holders) while trying not to slam him in the media (there by dropping his trade value). Again, just my flea bitten opinion.

If I had to guess (and I do), I would think Carr would be here next year but it won't be because McNair/Smith/Kubiak still think he's The Man. It will be because, like you said, there is no long term Plan B....YET.

One thing's for sure, if Carr IS still here come training camp, he will not be the #1 QB on the depth chart like he has been for the last 5 years prior. At least not until, in Kubiak's eyes, he's actually EARNED it. And judging from the Carr/Kubiak relationship over the 2nd half of last season, I don't know if that's going to happen.

 

How do you spell relief?

S A G E

 

like mad max said: it's the same line smith was giving last month; tells me the organization has likely adopted the same, unified approach - we'll concede carr was "inconsistent" to make season ticket holders feel better, but offer nothing in terms of his employment.

the trade value reasoning is flimsy, imo. first of all, if he wanted to protect or even enhance carr's worth, the organization would be singing his praises. secondly, no matter what you say or do, as soon as you let it be known carr is available, his value plummets.

exactly. eating carr's salary and then additionally paying a guy who's not an appreciably better option is silly - they're better off sticking with carr and using the money to sign a CB. or RB. or T.

 

Only when multiplying

 

Absolutely not. Of course, I'd go the optimistic route and say that it could be a good thing because, even if DC is here next season, he still won't be handed the job. If he goes into training camp having to compete with a couple guys for the starting job, it might say something if he wins it.

But yeah, I'd much rather him be gone. Gimme Plummer and draft Kolb.

 

it might say he might be better than sage rosenfels!

 

This is what's going to happen..

We keep Carr and it will be his last year, and we only win.. 4-6 games max.

And every other team in our divison will atleast win 10 games.

THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT HERE FIRST!

 

Yea he won but it was mainly because the defense and running game. The same situation as Dilfer when he was in Baltimore.

 

When's the last time a division had three 10 game winners?

 

Who many people would rather have as the Texans starting qb just because it is someone else beside Carr.

 

i think i'm in that camp, actually. because i'm not sure he could do much worse than what carr ultimately ended up doing towards the end of the year. if kubiak is gonna take the ball out of the QB's hands, sage can hand off just as effectively as carr, and doesn't fumble nearly as frequently.

 

kubiak took the ball out of carr's hands in certain games, yes, but there's no evidence to suggest he shut carr down over the course of the season.

for the year, he averaged 27.7 att/game; in the final four weeks of the season, he totaled 23, 28, 23 and 15 attempts. in fact, he threw 223 passes in games 1-8; 219 in games 9-16. and it was his throw, not hand-off, that set-up the GW FG against the colts in week 15.

 

and those attempts were largely screen passes and dumps. i'm sorry, but i'm not convinced that gary kubiak didn't lose faith in david carr last year from what i saw on the football field in body language and play calling. i realize that's a point of contention.

 

I think rolling out a bunch of stats that are out of context is really the only way to argue it. Anyone who wants to pick up a slide rule and dissect numbers out of the context the actual game from which they were collected ought to dig out some videotape. The head coach all but quit on Carr. If Rosenfels weren't injured, he'd have seen a lot more PT.

 

Yeah, I'm usually right there with you on this whole Carr debate Ric, but I gotta agree with Max here. I think Kubiak lost faith in Carr this year.

 

I agree.

It really seems that the Sage injury may have cost us a lot of talent evaluation time. Good for Carr, bad for the fans