[Chron] Barry a quiet move that could turn out big for Rockets

That article worries me...or at least the info.

No bona fide center...wow. They expect Yao to log the big minutes this year without a backup that can score? Trouble. Especially after what happened last year when they ran the legs off of the guy.

Loren Woods? Give me a break.

The Barry signing...great teammate...40% career in 3's...but aging. And with shooters the shot goes first. I hope he can stay healthy and be productive.

I think his signing will open up a trade to move Head and Novak...only problem is...no value. Bad thing is if you want someone who can play...Battier will have to go too.

 

There it is.

 

Let Deke go. You want to talk about Chuck Hayes being an offensive liability? Go ahead and watch Mutombo over the last few seasons. He has the worst hands in the NBA and is probably one of the worst finishers.

I would prefer to bring in a young, NBA caliber athlete who is big enough to man the C position but it doesn't look like any are available for the right price. In that case, Scola/Hayes are just fine to split minutes at backup C. If Yao goes down they can pick someone up who has at least as much to give as Deke does at this point.

By season's end I hope it's goodbye Deke, Luther, B. Jackson, Francis, Novak and Woods. So long!!!

 

Just don't let Mutombo go.

Talking about him being offensive liablity is the dumbest thing eva.

 

I doubt that.

 

Where did you get that the shot goes first? Pure shooters tend to play late in their careers because usually the one thing they can still do is shoot. Dale Ellis, Ray Allen, Eddie Johnson "Oh MOTHER!", any of this ring a bell?

Maybe you're talking about "shooters" like Francis and T-mac. Those guys are scorers not shooters...

 

Mutombo is a relic and an offensive liablity. He is still a great shotblocker.

 

The Chron story is hilarious. Go back and look at it again. It's practically a press release from Morey advertising who is and isn't available, and for what price. Translations: 1) Get in your bid on Battier before one of our other suitors snaps him up. 2) Don't even think about Landry; we're going to do what it takes. 3) Our last offer to Deke is final; we're prepared to live without him. 4) You can have Novak, but Hayes will cost you.

 

I think there other centers out there I am not worried.....bring in Mourning if we want another oldie but goodie or Mihm for a guy with a shot....or what about that guy Chicago drafted a year or so ago....he doesn't seem to fit into their scheme IMO.

 

True, but one of the best ways to keep McGrady healthy is to have a solid, consistent, and injury-free backup to keep his minutes reasonable during the regular season. Barry's a good pickup but his age and durability does pose a question IMO.

And a rotation fo Scola, Landry (hopefully) and Hayes is fine, but without Mutombo, the lack of size behind Yao is a concern. Dorsey may make up for that by making major contributions as an undersized center in his rookie year - like Scola did last year - but that's no guarantee.

That said, given what he had to work with, I do like the moves Morey has made so far. But there are still plenty of questions surrounding this team.

 

lol I see what you mean.

 

Deke did the same thing last year. He is getting a minimum offer so there is no rush on his part to sign early. He can get that money anywhere at anytime. I wouldn't be surprised if he signed after training camp so he doesn't have to go through all the drills and allows Morey more flexibility in roster moves.

 

deke is great defensively still so i would keep him b/c if yao goes down, he'll be there. his presence on D is still one of the best in the L.

but yes, offensively, he's slower than my grandmother.

 

You think Deke can score?

If Head and Novak have no value on the trade market, imagine how much of an upgrade Barry will be over them on OUR team. Because he certainly had suitors left and right, and the Rockets won him, in part because of money, in part because of proximity to his home, in part because of the playing time we offered.

Basically all your arguments about being worried are centered on weaknesses the Rockets already had. Barry has nothing to do with the fact that we have no scoring backup centers. And if we didn't sign him we'd have been stuck with "worthless" Head and Novak. Taken by itself this acquisition upgrades our biggest position of weakness and affords McGrady some crucial resting time in the playoffs.

We can address the other weaknesses as we go along.

 

Sometimes small moves pay big dividends....could Barry be our current version of Mario Elie?

A small move that paid massive rewards...

DD

 

If we are to get Deke back my gut says that we'll have to offer more than the minimum. But I think it's doable. My bet is that Morey is waiting on Landry to sign, and will throw however much of the MLE leftover is needed to sign Deke, perhaps 1.5-2 million. The question of course is whether we even need him at this point. I would love to have him as a sentimental pick, just to have him on board for the title run in payment for all his hard work for us over the years, but where does he fit in? I think Dorsey at this point is ready to play backup center minutes, and Scola and Hayes have done so in the past as well.

To me it's going to have to be Hayes or Deke. We've got too many back-up bigs on this team even after you eliminate Woods. Yao Scola Landry Dorsey Novak (Hayes Deke): 7 players for 2 positions, add Battier and Harris and you have 9 for 3 which is more reasonable and the reason Novak and Landry are training themselves to be able to fit at the SF spot. Dorsey Hayes and Deke are all defensive specialists with little to offer on offense, but Deke is the longest and Dorsey is the youngest. Hayes is the shortest and the weakest offensively (he can't even dunk, much less finish an alley-oop like Dorsey can), so I'm guessing he goes and Deke stays.

 

The rockets did lowball Deke last year, and although I like Morey, he seems like he is intent on doing his job. Hence, Deke needs to stand his ground and get the over 2 million that he deserves.

 

Wow you picked up on all that pretty quick! Rereading it again after you say that it is pretty obvious!! Good stuff.

 

He can do some things that are similar to Mario Elie but to expect him to have the same kind of impact is unrealistic. It was interesting to see that DM wanted to add Maggette to the team.

Not having Deke will hurt us.His shot blocking, rebounding/length and experience will be missed along with his leadership on and off the court.

 

We don't need Mutombo anymore. Dude's 42 years old. If he wants to go to the Celtics to try to get that championship by all means Morey should just let him go.