1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Chron] Back treatment has McGrady feeling good

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragon167, Dec 29, 2006.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,782
    Likes Received:
    3,703
    as far as posture is concerned, mcgrady certainly slouches when he walks or is standing still. could part of the solution be something simple as standing up straight like your mom always tells you to sit up straight?
     
  2. DonkeyMagic

    DonkeyMagic Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    21,604
    Likes Received:
    3,487
    the doctor said he needs a backiotomy!!
     
  3. ShadyMcGrady

    ShadyMcGrady Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,614
    Likes Received:
    1
    Link?



    Just kidding, that was good, I love that line.
     
  4. Mordo

    Mordo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2003
    Messages:
    1,206
    Likes Received:
    1
    Yes, it is better! That's fantastic! It is like superspeed acupuncture being able to release the energy blockages in one session instead of multiple weekly sessions. Our players should turn to alternative treatment in addition to conventional medicine, when conventional medicine doesn't work alone.

    I have googled it and here is some more info.

    http://chetday.com/breast-cancer-treatment.htm

     
  5. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2000
    Messages:
    10,209
    Likes Received:
    4,162
    And TMac said he was on the table for 2.5 hours...which would be like 30 hours of deep tissue massage? :eek:

    bbjai's info also noted that it could be a treatment that needs to be repeated.

    For one thing, it was a very big positive that TMac played heavy minutes in a back to back situation. But I'd like to see the proof in the pudding tonight, and see him turn in a good performance, show some flashes of old TMac.

    I went and looked up the athletes mentioned that have used Patterson

    Terrell Owens: Only mention I could find of any back injury ever was here on Nov. 24. He's a hard guy to figure because he's also dealing with a finger injury, but doesn't look to have many ill effects.

    John Smoltz: Has a vast injury history, mainly his elbow/groin, but according to this
    his only back injury was May of 2005. His start was pushed back, but there was no return mention of it, and he pitched a great 2005.

    Michael Johnson : could find no specific back injury, other than a variety of injuries from which he recovered to win 2 gold medals in 2000. Also, noted commonness of back spasms in Olympic runners (Marion Jones).

    Gail Devers: same as Michael Johnson, no specific injury. But apparently competed well beyond her "prime"

    Butch Reynolds: no mention of a back injury

    Andy Roddick, meanwhile, has quite the history. November 2005 February 2004 (mentions chiro work, so not Patterson)

    On the bright side, Roddick appears to have made it through 2006 with no back injury, perhaps he started using Patterson then? On the downside, Roddick was formerly the #1 player in the world, and wikipedia has him now at #6.
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

    DonkeyMagic Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    21,604
    Likes Received:
    3,487
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,965
    Likes Received:
    39,425
    As I understand it most of TMac's spasms are muscle related.....so if he can sort out that issue, it would be WONDERFUL !!!

    DD
     
  8. ShadyMcGrady

    ShadyMcGrady Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,614
    Likes Received:
    1
  9. SuperMarioBro

    SuperMarioBro Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    3,850
    Likes Received:
    1,531
    I can't count how many times I've read articles like this to build up my hopes only for them to be crushed later... But this one has done it again. I still believe. I got faith. And this article gave me more of it... I think he'll get it together with a little time.

    But... I think the biggest problem is that I (and many of you) almost seem to have more faith in T-Mac than he has in himself.

    I mean does anyone else feel like McGrady's pessimism and fear is causing more problems than the injury itself?... It's like he's giving up on himself and the possibility of ever playing to his potential. :(

    He needs to just play as hard as his back will allow him to play, and not worry about what might happen, because whatever happens, there's nothing he can do to prevent it anyways. Because look how innocent the plays are that flare up his back. It's never caused by a hard hit or a collision.
     
  10. SuperMarioBro

    SuperMarioBro Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    3,850
    Likes Received:
    1,531
    Also, the other thing that I've heard is that McGrady's back is just very arched... Too arched for it to easily provide proper support for his upper body. I don't know if that's correlated with this muscle problem or not, though.
     
  11. Amel

    Amel Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    10,642
    Likes Received:
    5,731

    hahaha

    if this is true

    this might be the best news all year

    5 stars

    thanks to Pat
     
  12. marciagong

    marciagong Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2006
    Messages:
    458
    Likes Received:
    1
  13. marciagong

    marciagong Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2006
    Messages:
    458
    Likes Received:
    1
    I this is forum is kind of rubbish myself(too many crazy fans talking nonsense), but there's still a chance that Tmac may read your message and reply. :eek:
     
  14. suxx0011

    suxx0011 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2002
    Messages:
    212
    Likes Received:
    0
    Great! I still have doubt though. I hope it's not just a hype.
     
  15. scyman

    scyman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    1
    Regarding my posts concerning "posture" I'd like to say that the better term is Muscle Balance. When you say posture people often think it's as easy as standing up straight. Muscle balance is more about having your body's muscles work the way they're supposed to. When they are all working together without imbalances then the result is great posture. Tmac's probably way out of balance, thus causing muscle spasms.

    Muscle Balance and Function is a modality that trains the body's muscles to work together the way they were intended through excercises the individual performs daily, not having to rely on outside electro stimulation or manipulation.
     
  16. macfan

    macfan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,318
    Likes Received:
    1
    I totally agree with everything you said. I like JVG, but I am putting T-Mac's injury on him. He wants every player to be in the mold of Charles Oakley and rebound. For Gundy, rebounding means size and he told Tmac to bulk up. Little did Mr. Litlle know that Tmac is a finesse player that uses his athleticism and speed to go by people. His skeleton could not properly support the added mucle mass.

    Sean Elliott said last night that the best piece of advice he ever got was from Red Auerbach. Red used to preach: "Every minute spent in the weight room is a minute taken away from shooting and fundamentals. Basketball is a game of quickness"

    Sean also added that he would have extended his career another 5 years if he hadn't bulked up and messed his knees (from added weight/pounding) during the middle part of his career.

    I know that people made fun of Tmac's chicken legs, but that is his normal body makeup. 215-220lbs is where he should be at. Added weight will simply put more strain on his back.

    The only perimeter player with size and great quickness is Lebron.
    Don't get me wrong, Lebron is a freak of nature, but he's a linebacker playing basketball. He has no finesse and he bullies people with his size.

    Is he a great and dominant player? Yes
    Do I find his game aesthetically pleasing? No

    Tmac playes like a gazelle and he's so much fun to watch when he's on top of his game. His ballhandling is second to none. Let's hope JVG unleashes Tmac and allows him to sacrifice a little rebounding for more explosiveness.
     
    #96 macfan, Dec 29, 2006
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2006
  17. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,893
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    I never heard anywhere that Van Gundy told McGrady to bulk up. Where did you read that?
     
  18. Prosun

    Prosun Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2006
    Messages:
    241
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hey, I just heard a T-Mac interview on 610AM. He said he's still feeling back pain. In the Nets game, he was still worried about getting another back injury. At times, he didn't want to rebound or do other things because he was worried. Maybe this interview took place before the treatment? If not, he's still feeling pain. Either that or it's all mental.

    I think he'll be fine though. As he keeps playing without getting hurt, he'll realize he can do anything without worrying about re-aggravating an injury. We can only hope so.
     
  19. cdrive

    cdrive Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2006
    Messages:
    7,957
    Likes Received:
    7,987
    dear tmac,

    please throw down a 360 statue of liberty dunk tonight.


    that is all.

    c:\
     
  20. GermanRoxFan

    GermanRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    1,086
    Likes Received:
    37
    too bad t-mac's back problems go far beyond the time he's been coached by jvg.

    but i guess that's also jvg's fault. he could have become t-mac's coach sooner and told him that he doesn't need to bulk up.

    blaming anything negative on jvg seems like a hobby of everyone around here... :rolleyes:

    good players bulk up when they are skinny because they actually extend their careers by doing so. they lose their quickness as time goes by and need to add muscles mass to avoid injuries and contain some of the quickness. ask the likes of michael jordan or kobe bryant about it.
     

Share This Page