[Chron] Andre Johnson no longer wants to be a Texan

Watt had sympathy when Dre wasn't extended, so doesn't make sense he wouldn't have any now. Front office has already flexed their muscles.

 

That's because we are fanatics sir

Even Parsons is taking heat for signing a contract when he's a free agent and not waiting for LeBron to decide what he was going to do... He betrayed us. Lol.

 

Did he really? I mean, let's face it, a lot of Watt's extension is coming from setting Andre out to pasture. Right now the FO is sending a very clear message that the team comes first and holding out won't get you anything. If the FO had done that the last time Andre held out, they'd be in much better shape right now and Andre wouldn't have held out.

 

If Watt has his own ulterior contract motives, he's not thinking "team first". If anything, Dre's treatment should have JJ worried about getting paid his own perceived full value. The current regime already shocked many people by not extending Andre's contract. They need to make it right. Albeit, Dre could easily make it right too. I can't blame the FO for not extending Andre, but 1 million dollars for the greatest player in franchise history who stills produces?!!? Just pay it and move on. McNair has done MUCH worse extending Kubes, Smith, and Schaub when they didn't deserve. A measly 1 million for someone who actually earned it shouldn't be a problem.

 

Not really, Andre's treatment should show Watt that the Texans will treat their guys right, the Texans ripped up Andre's contract and made him the highest paid WR in the NFL at the time when there was absolutely no reason for them to do so from a football standpoint. The reason Andre is likely to be cut next year is because they paid him so well actually. No one should be shocked that they don't extend the contract of someone who will be getting cut next year for not being worth their current contract.

Had Andre earned the 1 mil, he'd have it, instead he took bad advice from his uncle again and foolishly pissed that money away by holding out when he had absolutely no leverage. When you choose playing games with the FO over being with the team working to make everyone better, you lose. That's the lesson to take from all of this.

 

Andre had a great year last year with a broken down Schaub and an undrafted rookie (who isn't good enough to beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick) throwing him the ball. He might be concerned about the QB as it pertains to being a winning football team. But I don't think he's worried about how Fitz or Case affect his own personal stat totals. He's going to get his no matter who's taking snaps. Last year proved that.

 

Your point would be valid if Dre played subpar last season. He didn't, so it's not.

Again, I don't fault the organization for not extending... I'm talking about a measly 1 million to make things right this season.

 

I never suggested he played sub-par last year, merely that he's not worth a 16 million dollar cap hit next season, I don't think anyone in their right mind would suggest that a 34 year old Andre was worth that much.

As to the 1 mil, things are "right" right now, and that's what Andre doesn't like. He wants to be able to intentionally not earn the money but get it anyway. It's just more of him throwing a fit as if he has any leverage when he clearly doesn't. His options are

1. go out and make 10 mil for doing your job.

or

2. Retire from football.

That really is the end of it.

 

dre knows that the current staff can and will drop him next season for 'cap reasons'. He is just protecting himself against that. Plus, all the years of frustration have finally gotten to him.

emmitt smith held out games in the regular season.

 

There isn't another team in the NFL that is going to give a 34 year old WR $10 million a year so Andre needs to suck it up and show up to training camp. The team shouldn't give him that bonus either, because he didn't earn it, and the new staff is serious about no one is bigger than the team no matter who you are.

 

Yeah that is right now Bobby, but when its brake the bank time and the Texans doesn't come on with the come on. Mr. Watt will singing dam near the same song Andre is singing. Especially if the Team isn't showing any promises.


Andre is still a millionaire LOL whats one million bro.

 

He has been leading this team for 12 season astr0s and we tripping over a few months. LOL

Hey he is keeping it 100 who in their right mind honestly thinks we are going to the Super Bowl .

 

LOL man I see.

 

One million he was to earn and did not by refusing to show up for camp. Texans have taken care of Andre over the years, they'll take care of JJ.

 

This is an interesting contrast with the current Rockets situation.

The Texans are as good as any team when it comes to treating their better players. They gave Schaub an extension coming off a season-ending injury and never thought about entertaining Peyton in the offseason. They gave Foster his big payday one year before they had to. They adjusted Andre's contract after the cap went up and other receivers started making more money. They never go out and sign other FAs. Instead they just keep their own and have them battle fight more. They don't hold players accountable for much of anything, have soft practices, and in general everyone LOVED Smithiak. And everyone got paid by McNair.

Plus, the Texans treated Andre better than perhaps any organization has ever treated a non-franchise QB. The act of ripping up a contract for a better one just cause of changing salary cap situation, in of itself is probably non-existent in sports.

Yet despite all that, here we have AJ demanding a trade.

So in the end, where have the Texans kindness for their players gotten them? Schaub throwing pick 6s and Dre quitting on the team.

 

There was a football reason to do it - everyone agreed he was underpaid. He had done the FO a favor (not intentionally) the first few years of that deal by playing for so little. From a football standpoint, the last thing you want on your team is a grumpy WR that's concerned about his contract for the next several years - look at how it affected Desean Jackson's play a few years back. And it's even more of a football problem when that guy is the centerpiece of your offense. So yeah, from a football standpoint, it made a whole lot of sense to pay him and get stability and max production from that position.

Or the other way to look at it is that the reason he'll be cut next year is his willingness to constantly restructured his contract to get the Texans more cap flexibility every year, which pushed all the cap hits down the line. So thanks to his flexibility and willingness to help the Texans, he won't get paid the bigger paydays in his contract.

 

This is absolutely what happened here. If Andre had a better agent working for him during the entirety of his contract, he probably could have negotiated higher guarantees in his contract for 2015 and 2016 for every restructure he agreed to do. That would have ensured he got his money and not exposed him to the threat of a cap casualty.

That being said, McClain is putting it out there in the press and on Twitter that the Texans won't cut AJ80. IF (capital I, capital F) that is the case, this whole thing is moot, right?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>By the way, Bob McNair wants Andre Johnson to finish his career as a Texan. So he will. No trade. No cut. Report of retire.</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/487623870203969536">July 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Do you have an example of any NFL team doing this without a contract extension and just a restructure? I have never, ever, heard of that.

Players agree to restructure contracts to get an advance. Even in andre's case the millions he restructured only raised his cap hit by a few million because it was spread over 4,5, and 6 years. It isn't the difference between being cut or not cut. If you would cut him for 14 million you would cut him for 11 million in cap relief.

Andre missed his workouts, he wants to get that money back, the Texans are saying no. That is the start and end to this conflict.

 

I dunno about that, but you might be right, either way, there's no way in hell they'll keep him with a 16 mil cap hit and he hasn't been exactly willing to be rational in their negotiations considering that he continues to operate as if he has leverage when he clearly doesn't.

 

You don't realize John McClain is a hack? He knows nothing. Not calling you out, 610 and the Chronicle position him in a way where lots of people, including national media, are fooled into thinking he's a credible source on the Texans.

Look at his Twitter. It's all lies, misreads, false information... from guaranteeing we'd draft a QB to reporting we had released TJ Yates (he then reported we traded TJ Yates like nothing happened days later) - the guy is just clueless.

Completely clueless.

Does it seem logical that Andre Johnson would retire? Not really. But if someone feeds McClain the idea that Andre Johnson is joining the Skeeters McClain would report it. Because he doesn't think. He has no brain. He has a mouth for food and to breath from. That's it.