Except this is a rare complexity. Most aborted children are not the product of rape. If they were, this debate would be much different in my opinion. The fact that abortion exists as a means for a woman to not allow her sexual choices to impact the lifestyle she wants to lead is what causes the most contention in the debate. I guarantee that if the USA made abortion illegal in all cases except health of the mother and cases of incest and rape, this debate would be over. Sure, you'd have people on both sides that were still not happy, but it would no longer be a 50/50 national debate.
Jesus would never tell you to mind your own business. Minding your own business is what allowed men to pass the man on the road who was in need of help. It was choosing not to mind one's own business that led the Good Samaritan to help this man. Minding your own business means you pass someone dying on the side of the road after being hit by a car and you say "none of my business."
Personally, I think people just care way too much about what goes on in the lives of others. If you're religious, just have faith in Judgement. I've never understood the obsession with taking millions of case studies, each with different implications and conditions and trying to lump them into black and white categories. Don't play the role of God, Allah etc. and assume you know more about people then they know themselves.
I believe in that, but I'm more against abortion because I think it is irresponsible to terminate a pregnancy when there could have been steps taken to prevent said pregnancy in the first place. Maybe I just believe that a man has a responsibility to look after the seed he plants. I'm not a coward like my father, who ran away like a ****ing p***y after I was born. A life is a beautiful thing. I don't think it makes sense to care so little about a life not yet lived. I care a hell of a lot less about a child-raping murderer on death row's rights than I do about the rights of a so-called "piece of meat" sitting in a womb. Out of sight, out of mind I suppose... But I know a lot of women regret getting abortions later on in life. If its not something that a lot of women are psychologically capable of handling, then why is it always turned into a rights issue? Maybe we just need to educate and prepare our citizens so they are better equipped to handle life. Knowledge.
I can understand this thinking. Personally I care because I think they are lives being terminated. I don't want the innocent to die. However, I don't hold any ill will towards women who get abortions performed and I don't judge them. It's not my place. I freely admit that the beam in my eye is quite large.
This is not an accurate description of the choices women face when contemplating abortion. What about mental health?
The point I think we are trying to make is that IF we are making it our business to care what happens to another person's life... we need to care about the person themselves. More needs to be done to help women understand the choices they have, and more needs to be done to educate the young people on sex. We need to do more than just treat a pregnant woman/girl like a special case, we need to care about what happens to her, and if she chooses to have the baby... what happens later in their lives. There has to be more involvement. If we choose to intrude into their lives, we need to be prepared to help instead of judge. Not bury their heads in the sand like most fundamentalist Christian homes do when it comes to that dreaded topic. Knowledge.
You know that abortion used to be illegal right? People, some of them god-fearing religious people of every denomination, needed to terminate pregnancies. For whatever reason, good, bad, or indifferent. It wasn't always pretty. Legal or illegal, people wishing to terminate a pregnancy will always exist. They will take whatever action they need. Whether you or I believe it to be OK.
I guess that's where our opinions diverge. I believe that people should be allowed to make their own decisions when it comes to abortion because I don't really think a fetus constitutes life so it's not a clear-cut case of murder or deliberate harm. It should be up to them to live through and accept their own decisions. Admittedly, this is the "grayest" area for me as I don't really like the idea of abortion itself, but I take the stance that people are better judges of their situations then the gouvernment.
Is anybody ever psychologically ready to bring a new life into the world? All the more reason to put people like this in a position where they know what to expect, and that they have options, and more importantly... to know that there are people out there who generally are concerned for the welfare of the parents too, not just the baby.
And to whomever said most abortions are elective/sexual lifestyle choices... let's see some evidence of that claim. Annnnd even if that were true, shouldn't more emphasis be placed on raising more responsible adults and promoting sexual education/contraception instead of trying to punish people after the fact, and doing great harm to the lives of those whom were the victims of misfortune?
Dr. Tiller should not have been murdered. It should not have come to this. Abortion has become a battle waged with malice and ignorance rather than compromise and understanding.
If you want to word a sentence like that of coarse not, but that's just not the case in most "late term" abortions. You are trying to compare apples to oranges. Ask yourself, What would you do if you wife was raped and became pregnant? Would you be a proud father? After all, wouldn't it be gods will that that child was here for a reason, especially if it was healthy. How about if your child had birth defects and your wife's life was in jeopardy? Does your current family take priority of the birth of a unhealthy child? Stop trying to see things threw one set of specks and try wearing multiple hats. The point of this thread is a "Christian terrorist, kill doctor". So is killing in the name of Mohammad the same as killing in the name of Christianity? Is this a act of terror? or just murder? I believe it's both! Live and let live. The man was doing want he thought was the right thing to do. But a extremist believed other wise.
Abortion Stats The reasons women give for having an abortion underscore their understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood and family life. Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; <b>three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner</b> absolutely.
So, this guy shooting the doctor was a good samaritan? People's business is there own, it is none of anyone elses business if someone wants to get an abortion.... It is between them and God...no one else.... Judge not, lest ye be judged... DD
