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Christian Terrorist(s) kill Doctor

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by insane man, May 31, 2009.

  1. justtxyank

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    I get your point here, BUT, if you believe that the child being aborted is in fact a life, child, then it becomes black and white. You are talking about murder if that is your belief. This is why the issue is so hard to compromise on for people.

    I think people do consider the issues that arise, but the thought that comes up is "so because people can't be responsible enough to avoid pregnancy we should murder children?"

    Now, obviously not everyone agrees with the initial premise, which is why it's easier for them to talk about things like compromise, shades of gray, etc.

    But like Harrison Ford once told Ritter, "Not black and white, Wrong and Right!"
     
  2. giddyup

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    I'm fifty-five years old. I've had sex many thousands of times. I only got the four children that I was planning on. All "our" conceptions were almost immediate when the "efforts" began. Drat! So I had me some strong swimmers. Accidents happen in spite of the best efforts. The parents that I know who have unexpected pregnancies are loving parents in spite of their little surprise. That's where the choice should be and really is...

    Babies can be adopted out. People can be more responsible about their sexual choices. Give anyone a low road out and they will take it. Is the next step to start killing the elderly?
     
  3. LScolaDominates

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    Many of these children would not have lived long, would have had a life of excruciating pain and suffering, or both. In others, their birth would have threatened the life of the mother. Once again, to paint the issue as nothing but a "life or death" decision betrays a lack of compassion for the women making these extremely difficult decisions.
     
  4. moestavern19

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    Maybe we should just sterilize poor people!

    Get R' Done Obama!
     
  5. tcadriel

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    More deaths are committed in the name of god and religions. Mr. Tiller was also a faith believing man, that I'm sure felt he was helping many families in a time of crisis. Yes many that attend church, do things that their churches might not condone, but are praying for forgiveness. This act of terrorism of doctors and families is just that, "terrorism". They basically are trying to scare people into doing what they believe is the "Holy" way to live. Sounds a bit similar to what the Taliban is doing in the Middle East.

    Quiet frankly people like Landlord Landry, are the type of people that drive people like me away from organized religion. You can believe without having to be some sort of extremist. If god is a "be all; know all" god, he truly knows what your made of inside.

    "for those that are pure in heart, for they shall see god" -Matthew

    Stop and ask yourself, What would Jesus do?
     
  6. justtxyank

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    I mean if the person in question is going to want an abortion anyway, why not?
     
  7. moestavern19

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    Eh, the ACLU would probably get all uppity about it.


    Damn ACLU always trying to hold the man down. :mad:
     
  8. justtxyank

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    So you mean it would be a normal day in the good ol' U S of A?
     
  9. giddyup

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    Statistically speaking, most abortions are ones of lifestyle convenience. The difficulty in the decision is the agony of justifying it. Live and let live-- especially the innocent.

    There are a great number of great Americans who have come from disadvantaged backgrounds. I don't deny that there are serious socio-economic issues but forcing people to be personally accountable for their behavior that makes their life harder should be enforced not discarded.

    The health of the mother is one area where I can medically justify choice. Lots of mothers have persevered on with pregnancies when they were counseled to terminate.
     
  10. giddyup

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    Can you see Jesus blessing an abortion because the mother wants to go to grad school or pursue a promotion?
     
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    but the majority of these children would have lived.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    No, but Jesus would not have blessed murdering the doctor either.
     
  13. moestavern19

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    Pursuing such things sounds like selfish interest to me. Isn't the pursuit of a higher degree or promotion just a ticket to achieving greater status in society and getting more material possessions? Doesn't sound like the most altruistic goal.

    An innocent child shouldn't have to die because somebody was irresponsible.

    Condoms and birth control are readily available these days.

    Now in cases of rape and incest or tragic stuff like that, it gets harder to determine what the right course of action is.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    I agree Moes. I am pro-life, but as someone who is close to two rape victims, I could never ask a rape victim to be forced to carry the child of her assailant to term.
     
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    Are you referring to the fetuses of Dr. Tiller's patients? If so, you are probably wrong.

    BTW, why do you use Genesis to support your stance on abortion if you don't follow the dietary laws therein?
     
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    i've never really understood this. murder is murder, right? it's not the baby's fault it was the product of a rape.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    It's not about compromising my belief, it's about my compassion for the circumstance. I still think it is wrong, but under the circumstances I would understand why they would feel that was the only good decision they could make.
     
  18. LScolaDominates

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    It goes to show the ethical complexities involved in abortion decisions. This is precicely why the issue is best left up to the women involved.
     
  19. Master Baiter

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    Maybe it was a part of God's plan for both the mother and the child.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Thou shall not judge....

    Judge not lest ye be judged.....

    That is what Jesus would do or say....

    People should mind their own business.

    DD
     

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