That's not news to me but thanks for sharing! It used to be a majority opinion and maybe someday it will be again. Until such time I'll keep touting the truth that I see (opinion) with regards to little boys and girls in utero. How did we get so afar from valuing innocent lives?
We value innocent lives, just some of us have a different definition of "life" from you. Yours doesn't fit my worldview or my opinion of what God wants. As a result, I feel it is my duty to fight you tooth and nail to assure that women have the right to choose. That is, unless you would like to join me in actually addressing the root cause.
You believe that life begins at conception. I tend to share that belief. Others believe that life begins at birth. My father jokes that life begins when the kids move out and the dog dies. Seriously though, when an individual believes that life begins determines how they see this issue. The fact that people have differing beliefs on the core question demonstrates that you will have differing opinions on legality. Given that this is a moral question and there are legitimate differences in the moral code depending on when "life" begins, it is not for me to be the moral arbiter of the country. It is my hope that abortion goes away, not by force of law, but through compassion and education. I would rather have it legal and regulated than illegal and extremely dangerous. It is to the individual's conscience. Take this for what it is worth from a pro life guy that believes the debate should end. Oh yeah...again...killing the doctor is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Would I feel comfortable in that sort of society? I wouldn't but I wouldn't consider that an imposition of a belief on me since I don't subscribe to a belief that redheads should be killed. Unless the law compels me to kill redheads I am not being imposed on. That doesn't mean I can't work for a ban since my belief is that killing is redheads is wrong and I will work to impose that belief on the rest of society by trying to convince enough people to make it illegal to kill redheads. Let me give you another example. In some societies **** fighting is allowed. Now I think **** fighting is cruel but if I was living in that society would the legalization of **** fighting be forcing the belief that **** fighting is fun on me? It wouldn't since I wouldn't partake of **** fighting. Again the lack of a ban isn't forcing you to accept a belief. That doesn't me you can think it is completely wrong or that many people wouldn't agree with you that a certain action legally allowed is wrong but you as an individual are free to hold your belief. Unless you are forced to partake of the action you disagree with the belief isn't being imposed on you.
There is no rule he has to live by. If he doesn't want to have an abortion he doesn't. There is the absence of a rule so nothing saying he can or cannot haven an abortion. It is left to an individual choice.
Who said anything about assessing a penalty; my interest is in saving an innocent life. You do realize that you seem to have put yourself above God with the statement "I'm not (wrong)"; you don't even allow for the possibility that you could be wrong when it is plainly obvious that you could be and you've almost certainly been hung by your own words somewhere which said something like "we can't/don't know when life begins..."
Wouldn't a change in the law indicate a movement in attitude towards abortion? At a point the law changes, a majority of the Americans might well agree with it. Let me save you the time: it's not impossible!
Fair to assume that this effort to "impose" beliefs runs both ways.... or is it just when someone tries to reverse a legal position? Of course it runs both ways! Need I remind you that Roe v. Wade was a reversal of a position. Can everybody please stop accusing pro-Lifers of imposing a morality on the whole nation. If the law changes, the moral compass will have shifted.
However many pages, posts and years later, how about you come clean with this jiujitsu and tell us what this means. If you could change the law, what would it look like and what penalties would be assessed? How would the new law work?
For the first time since the question was asked in a Gallup poll, more Americans identify themselves as "Pro-Life" as opposed to "Pro-Choice". Also, more Americans (by a very slight margin) agree that abortion should be illegal in all circumstances as opposed to those who believe it should not be illegal at all. http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx
Since I'm not oriented to punishment, I've not thought that much about it. I just want to stop as many abortions from occurring as possible. It naturally would start with an appreciation of life so that is where I've focused my time and energy.
The removal of a ban though isn't an imposition but the removal of an impostion. People are still free to not have abortions. NO one is forcing you to accept abortions as being morally correct. Except logically that is what you are doing. That doesn't mean that is a bad thing. Following your example there are probably people who think that redheads should be murdered. Society is imposing a belief on them by banning the murder of redheads.
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