Was this not your inference? Did I succeed in stretching your inference to the absurd? Or was it not absurd in your opinion?
No, my point was that a fetus is not a baby. It's not even a sentient being. But there is no clear point when human life begins, that's the inference. It certainly begun at birth - I never implied or said anything like that. You did more then stretching of an inference, you warped it.
And you by extension in supporting her right to end the life of her baby. None of your business, I suppose....
It's really very simple. If there is such a thing as pro-Choice it must mean that women have a "choice" about whether or not to carry their fetus to term birth. Their choice is not only about their body, but the baby's as well... and it is just not about the baby's body but the baby's life as well. The only two things that make me hesitant about the death penalty are: 1) the expense of it (due to appeals) and 2) the possibility of error. DNA is helping avoid errors but I'm not sure what could help limit trial and incarceration expenses. The death penalty wasn't the expensive option in the old West.
I cannot agree with this. There are studies that indicate babies begin to learn in the womb. For example, music seems to affect their moods. Can you prove that the fetus isn't in there figuring out where the best kicking point is or figuring out the physics of the universe, which he or she forgets during the trauma of birth followed by a whack on the bottom? I can't prove the opposite either. It's a moot point.
I can't believe this thread turned into an abortion debate. an innocent man was killed for doing something legally by a wackjob. focus people
I can find a study that shows fetuses don't have any sensory input before 26 weeks. They can't perceive pain or music. It's related to the neural development. To me, that's the cut-off. If you are going to have an abortion, should be done before 26 weeks. Now, does a 50 week fetus respond to music and have moods - absolutely. That's why the line is blurred. But at the other end, are you saying an embryo is responding to music and can remember things? C'mon.
so you agree with killing of this doctor? let's just get this straight. do you agree with the killing of this doctor who was performing a legal procedure?
Operation Rescue should be investigated and if found culpable, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
If found culpable, sure. But, if you go down this road, will you apply the same rules to ACORN or the New Black Panthers?
The Wall Street corporate raiders were legal, but did they do right? As I said before, I do not condone his murder, but I can't bring myself to call him innocent.