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Christian School Threatens Student With Suspension/Expulsion for Attending Prom

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Lil Pun, May 8, 2009.

  1. JuanValdez

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    It sounded from the article that he told the kid when he signed that there would be repercussions if he went. And the committee decided the punishment and informed the student before prom night. So, he can make his decision to go or not go completely informed about what will or will not happen. The only uncertainty is whether or not he can get away with prom night drinking and sex. So, I would say he signed in good faith and that this approach is preferable to the alternative that would give the kid no choices.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    For a child. . .school is like a job
    Most jobs can fire you for what you do on your free time
    [Why do they have drug tests?]

    Rocket River
     
  3. Rocket River

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    You mean All the atheist in the world will sign off on these?

    Rocket River
    *grin*
     
  4. Rocket River

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    I understand
    However
    Our societal morality is enforced

    we allow companies to fire employees
    because what they put on their MySpace, or what they Twitter
    Hell . . . Didn't a Beer Company get fired because he was
    photographed with a competitors beer . . . while on his vacation

    How is this so different?
    OH . .i forgot . .it is a religion thing
    . . .but let a company do it for economic reasons
    Well . . .morals etc be d*mn . ..

    We are constantly saying one set of morals is 'better'
    than another set
    One set or morals says gay marriage is fine
    another says it is not . . . .
    and
    each sides seeks to impose its will on the other

    There are two sides to ever Moral/rule/ideal/etc

    Rocket River
     
  5. YugoRocketsFan

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    75% of people in jails are Christian

    75% of people in USA are Christian

    10% of people in the US are Atheist

    0.2% of people in jails are Atheist

    Federal Bureau of Prisons (1997)

    A person who is smart enough to not beileve in good is someone that is smart enough to not commit a crime.
     
  6. YugoRocketsFan

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    If this is to bait atheism, i suggest you go read a book.
     
  7. YugoRocketsFan

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    Typo.
     
  8. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Lighten up. It's obvious that the post was intended to mock the idea that atheists have no morals because they don't believe in God and that atheism would lead to the fall of civilization.
     
  9. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Belief in God has nothing to do with intelligence. There are a lot of really stupid atheists, just as there are a lot of really smart religious people.

    Also, if atheists were smarter, maybe they're just getting away with all the crimes they commit.
     
  10. Mathloom

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    Everyone is guilty here IMO.

    1) The kid got told the school's policy. He simply decided that he's going to stay with the school, he's goint to take classes and then do whatever he wants. Now that they did what they said would happen, he doesn't want to be suspended or expelled because he wants everything.

    Imagine this.
    Person 1: "Dude, if you come to my house, you gotta take off your shoes, ok? If you don't want to take your shoes off you can go to any other house. But we just have a rule to take your shoes off."
    Person 2: "Ok"... Then walks in with his shoes.

    Wtf? Why?

    2) For the school, this may be about brand image more than anything else IMO. They have a right to do this I think, but it's a bit harsh.

    Overall, I think the kid is more in the wrong. If these things were truly important to him, then he would have gone to a different school. If the parents forced him, then it's on them. But the school is private and has the right to put policies in place as long as they fit in with the school's goals. Drinking and having sex is on the kid's time, not the school's time - that's true. However, it becomes part of who he is. Unless he has split personality disorder, he is who he is 24 hours a day.

    I think the kid should quit the school on his own, take the consequences that come with it and go to prom to make a point.
     
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    These idiots should get together with all the Muslim fundamentalists and they could found their own oppressive little state somewhere in the middle of the desert and be happy.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    This situation raises a lot of issues regarding what is free choice when you sign something. The school says the student signed the document to abide by the rules out of free choice. That to me is a very circumscribed free choice since its most likely a condition of admission. Him signing the document appears to me only symbolic and meaningless when the real choice was whether to attend the school or not. Whether they have him sign something it is already understood that he has to abide by the school rule once he agrees to be a student.

    The principal signing the document from the other highschool also seems to to give the student a free choice also to me is really presenting a false choice. The principal is stating he is giving the decision to the student when he fully knew that there would be negative repercussions. The principal seems to be washing his hands of the issue by saying its all on the student when that isn't true since he know there will be negative repercussions. His role has someone who enforces the rules and if he knows what the student is doing is against the rules he is abdicating his responsibility and rather than teaching the student a life lesson he is passing the buck.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    LOL....sad but true.

    DD
     
  14. aghast

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    Fixed.
     

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