I've always hated Chris Paul because I kind of view him as a cheating, crotch-punching, whiny flopping assh*le but I think its because he does whatever needed to get an edge. Something like how John Stockton was. ****ing hated John Stockton but if you look at his numbers, the games he played and how little injury time offs he took, you'd be a huge-ass fan of his if he was on your team.
Just a final reminder - we acquired Chris Paul. Don't let people in a bad mood make you forget how unlikely this was a short while ago. Wow.
so I have a question - now that we are having so much trouble trading ryan anderson, why didn't we force the issue earlier with the CP3 trade? At the very least, we could have packaged beverly (our best trade asset at the time) with anderson so that anderson's contract would be an easier poison pill to swallow. LAC knew that they would have to take whatever deal Morey offered - why not unload anderson then??
I, too, would like to know this. Ryan anderson plus the kids we sent would have sufficed in my opinion. We couldve kept Bev and packaged him up for somebody else, since he is the most prized chip we had. Why the hell did we have to throw in that 1st rounder as well?
1. We were probably not the only potential trade partners 2. Clippers could have just said no and gone ahead to lose him for nothing. Sometimes getting nothing beats getting what a team might consider a negative. Also, a contract like Anderson is less manageable than the ones for Bev, Dekker, and Trez.
but my question was different - since CP3 had to opt in to his contract for the trade, he could not have been traded to other teams unless he authorized it. And, if the alternative would have been no trade, then the rockets could have signed him in free agency.
If CP3 went into FA, it would have been more expensive to sign him (I think like 10M more). This means we would have not only had to get rid of Anderson, but either Bev or Ego as well. Having him opt-in and us trading for him is far better than signing him outright. Also, CP3 makes Bev redundant. Even if we can't unload Ryno, he is still more useful in that he gives us elite spacing at the PF starting position.
I think you're right. I guess Morey was not confident he could actually get a third star and hedged by keeping Ryno?
FA and trades are never a sure thing. I would look to OKC getting PG13 over Boston and the Deandre comedy with Dallas as reference of when **** goes wrong.
OKC getting PG just doesnt make sense at all from Pacers perspective. No pick, higher salary? The only thing that would justify it if they thought the 2 players are going to be better than they currently are, which is very flimsy.
Why did the Rockets give up so much? 1. Other suitors were in discussion to acquire Paul, among them San Antonio. Your front office didn't want to come back to their fans and explain how they let Paul get away and sign with the Spurs. How would the front office look? They didn't want to risk it. 2. The rockets needed cap space to clear for Paul. If they waited to clear cap for more favorable trades, e.g. dealing away junk but keeping Beverley and the pick and clear cap this way, Paul signs with a rival or other teams sign smaller pieces to foil everything and sign your coveted role players. 3. Time-as soon as you sign your coveted free agents, you need the most amount of time to recruit and make small moves. You don't want to do it the other way and load up on role players but lose the star free agents....you get Durant first then resign role player like McGee, who will have a greater likelihood to sign with you because you may contend. 4. Team situations are different- just because PG13 signed with OKC it doesn't mean that he would have signed with Houston for a similar deal. Each team and package looks different to the teams and players involved 5. The DJ scenario- players have gotten cold feet in the past. You want to sign them quickly before they begin to second guess
The Clippers have to say YES to it. . . .and they obviously did not I'd bet good money that was the 1st offer Morey made . . . then he had to talk quickly to keep them from hanging up the phone Rocket River
hopefully CP can mesh will with harden, i feel like the style harden plays is really not a good fit for CP, both demands ball a lot, Harden is more freestyle, fast, lots of 3s, risky passes like full court passes, more turnovers, while CP is more old school, slow, less turnovers, more midrange, safe passes
CP can finally play with someone he was traded for to LAC. EGo. The Clips connection. Or Nola Connection.
If you, me, we thought about this, you best believe Morey did as well. The fact that Anderson is still with us tells me the Clippers did object to Anderson being a part of the trade package. Good question though.
