I stand corrected. David West is the only 'brick wall' big in this league that knows how to set picks. Point taken! Thanks for clearing that up. Also, thanks for deciphering the true meaning behind my original comments regarding West: "West is a fantastic player but he's very Amare-esque in that his numbers would take a hit without a superstar PG feeding him perfect passes on the PnR." Desperately reliant --- got it. Thanks again. I'm just going to reemphasize this: In your hypothetical scenario Antonio Daniels (washed up) becomes the floor general of this team. All of sudden he's responsible for disguising that team's lack halfcourt scorers instead of CP3. We've already established West can score in the halfcourt -- he's not great at it, benefits from playing with an elite PG but he's effective. He becomes option #1. Peja, a guy who probably can't even get his own shot anymore becomes option #2 with any combination of Posey/Mo Pete/Butler (all strictly jump shooters) becoming option #3. I'm sorry, but if you see .500 potential in that team more power to ya. They would be lucky to win a game without CP3, if you ask me. This really says it all. There's a reason people are scoffing at a claim you are desperately trying to defend. Given how fascinated you are with that 06/07 team that went 8-10 without CP3, i'm surprised you're refusing to acknowledge the simple explanation behind this: they had B-Jax and Pargo to fill in for him. That's 19-20 PPG stashed on your bench. Slightly better than a 4 PPG wash up like Antonio Daniels, i'd say. You're alone on an island here. I respect your opinion but this argument is setting the world of basketball back about 200 years. I'm done. Mercy!
I meant David West is one of the better screen setters in the league and as a result is great at playing the pick and roll or pick and pop. Well what else did you mean then that his production would take a hit without a superstar PG? its proven that he can do just fine without Paul, maybe not carry the team and win games but he can certainly put up a fight and keep the team in it. Antonio Daniels washed up? Just look at last year what the man did when he replaced Gilbert Arenas, I believe they went 30-23 with Daniels as the starting PG (probably would have to go back and check but im sure they were at least 5-7 games over .500 with Daniels as the PG). He may not have gawdy statistics bu the man is solid. Just look at the Wizards now without a true PG how bad they are. He moves the ball around, he gets everyone involved and doesn't commit too many mistakes. Peja is strictly a shooter and I'm not arguing that he needs to be set up to be effective, I agree with you on that. Yes I forgot Pargo and Jackson were also on that team but Butler, Brown who are still here played a bigger role than those two. Also the Hornets now have Posey and Daniels who are > Pargo + Jackson any day of the week. Its not mercy...c'est merci monsieur! Au revoir
I forgot about. Well that helps my point out even more that Deron has some pretty good players around him.
Deron Williams. He is stronger, can shoot, can pass and can attack the basket and finish. The guy is a winner.
At this point, its not even close. Chris Paul is a once in a generation pg who can do it all. Hes essentially a better version of Zeke. Deron as good as he is - is merely an allstar point guard who might be slightly better than a Tim Hardaway.
Chris Paul gets to the line more, can hit his fair share of mid range jumpers, can still score at 50% from the field, frankly the idea that Williams is a better finisher than paul is nothing but a mere judgment based on height and weight. Chris Paul is better at that aspect of the game that Williams.
It's all subjective, but I think CP3 is better. I'd rather build a team around CP3 and I think CP3 is more valuable to his team than Deron. That said, I think Deron Williams would be a really tough cover for CP3 in the playoffs...it's just a bad matchup imo.
Chris Paul is better, but it is closer than most people honestly think. Both of these teams suck when one of them is out. Neither of them have a chance to contend with the playoffs if they were not playing for their team. However, I do give D-Will a lot of credit for pretty much carrying the entire Jazz team on his back this season. Last season, he could have went to Boozer. This year it's all Deron all day. Deron also emerged Milsap into an all-star like player. Chris Paul is better, simply because he is much more efficient and pretty much runs the entire team for the Hornets.
Chris Paul, not that close. The only thing Williams has on Paul is his jumper. Paul is far more talented in any other aspects of the game. Paul's teammates are far less talented than Williams', normally.
You need to add the fact that Deron Williams has yet to have a healthy team this season. The Jazz are a better team than the Hornets...When healthy. Just like the Rockets might be better than the Lakers....when healthy.
