Chris Mannix: Yao's 24 min limit may be reevaluated in DEC

I agree with everything you just said 100%. Also feel Yao had something to add onto that. Its just one of the whole thing you just smartly said better than i could most often. Often because i am too frustrated with the team to say it right.

 

The Spurs are not winning championships anymore either and got the 7th seed, and Pop has said that he is rethinking his strategy of resting players because it is failing in the playoffs because they don't have homecourt.

You guys are missing my point.....about Yao.

We are better with a healthy productive Yao, that is the best case scenario....but if Yao can't play b2b games and is limited to 24ish minutes in the others we are better off without him at all, and moving on to another type of team.

The ONLY chance we have of being a contender this year is with a healthy Yao, without him, or a limited him, we are not one.

I am not dissing Yao, just saying that him in and out of the lineup will kill chemistry and identity, and by the team the team finds itself we will be fighting for one of the last playoff seeds, and that is not somewhere that is contending either.

DD

 

Yao isnt the only problem. One poster that corrected me reminded me of that. There was Battier, Adleman and his rotations, and the defense as a whole. Yo adds to that i think on the back 2 backs. We cant continue to have all of these problems. On or a few have to be nipped in the bud to win. Have to find out what to do about Battier sucking on defense and a black hole offense. Adelman figuring out his rotations and what he wants to do with Hill if he is never gonna use him. Also what they need to do about Yao. That's is not figured out right now I tell you. The drastic finish from 112 to 132 is huge even if they in the hundreds scoring? Thats still a huge jump in defensive letdown with Yao and without.

 

Talking about a 20 point swing from a team scoring in the hundreds on us to the team scoring in the mid hundreds on us.

 

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Your point is invalid. What the rockets team really needs is a star player, a closer. The rockets always got killed in the last minute. In fact, the lakers and mavs game, we lost because of last play.

 

Horse **** !

What the Rockets need is for the doctors to take the kid gloves off of Yao and come out swinging.

Otherwise it is another wasted year.


DD

 

you definitely exaggerated Yao's impact on team. you forgot that even with a healthy Yao playing like 32 minutes, the team is also playing the rest of 16 minutes in a totally different way but it is normal. do we usually lose in this 10 mins?

 

exactly, having two different line-ups every back to back is just gonna hurt our team.

 

We need him every game for 24 minutes. Now with Dampier i think Dampier should start and Yao finish every quarter. We have trouble cloaing quarters. Yao ends the game and Yao ends quarters solves that. Dampier begins each quarter. Then? Maybe we might even start to win the tip ball every once and a while?

 

no, he didn't exaggerate at all. the man has missed games built in to the schedule this year...we already know he isn't playing one of each back-to-back game....top that off with the fact we are limiting minutes within the games he is playing.

no big deal if the man is merely a role player. but this is the NBA and Yao is our best player with the biggest contract. you can't shift gears that easily. teams spend entire seasons trying to build chemistry and fluidity. him not being in clearly impacted our defense last season, and it's impacting it now too. it's very very difficult to do when your lead horse has to miss so much time.


that's not a knock on Yao. none of this is his fault. the man is a prince. but it's a gigantic weight around the Rockets' neck right now from an on-the-court basketball standpoint.

 

I think they should handle the minutes more flexibly. Not playing in back-to-backs as all definitely disrupts the rhythm of the team, and not sure it makes much sense. I also think the stiff 24 minute limit is kind of silly. Play him based on needs and based on how he feels. Play him every game, maybe make a conscious decision to play him less in back-to-backs and in games where we have a solid lead. But let him lead us there.

 

This.

 

DD now you don't have to worry, we can start Erika and Trade Yao.


you will get Team Chemistry.

 

lol Team Chemistry.

quoted from Chron (Chuck and Ric)
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/7267903.html

I wonder who they were referring to as "Ignored the game plan".......

 

I sense a lot of blaming Yao's minutes to deflect the discussion from Brooks ineptitude both offensively and defensively. One poster was correct in that Brooks and co. hardly even looked for Yao in the offense during the Lakers game. The defensive ineptitude of the backcourt is the main culprit in the first two losses and the issue on Yao's minutes cannot overcome the defensive weakness in the backcourt. In fact that weakness puts a lot of added pressure on the big men, with or without Yao, defensively.

I agree with the Brooks apologists though that the Rockets need Yao's presence on the b2b's while they are still building chemistry.

 

I know this will happen before the season. History repeats itself.

Most people said the same 'bring yao along slowly' thing a couple years back, and that's absolutely the right thing to do. However, the reality is that WEST is 10 deep and Rockets is a borderline playoff team. When pressure builds up, Yao HAVE TO push the limit. And he's been doing that in the last decade for Rockets and Chinese National team. Surprised he's injured? Or should we keep repeating the same behavior and expect a different outcome?

If we can't get at least a #8 seed with yao helping 24 mins a game, we simply failed and don't deserve to be in the playoff. SHAME to blame yao's unbelievable effort to come back.

 

No, we are NOT signing him again. Unless Yao takes minimum.

 

Good point, every year we started slow. With the new guys like Miller, Martin, and Lee, with the growth of guys like AB, CBud, and Scola, I would think we should have a decent start even without Yao.

 

Agreed. It’s killing team chemistry, and slowing down the process of the team finding an identity. Hurting our chances for home-court advantage.

I think the doctors are holding him back. They should let him play 24 mpg including back to backs now, then re-evaluate him in December. They have to test the foot to see if it holds up. 24 mins on backs to backs is not too much.

The doctors need to take off the kiddie gloves already.