Chinese Virologist post report claiming virus made in Wuhan lab

You stated that bat coronaviruses can not jump from bats to humans directly - a key part of your argument. I showed you are wrong. You now can't admit you are wrong.

 

Really. Reading comprehension is not your friend either.

You misstated what I said, your source that bats covids can jump directly to humans is speculation and you pulled the fact that millions of Chinese have a bat coronavirus out of thin air. Which one of us is spinning a narrative?

 

You have said it hasn't happened yet, and that's why you need an intermediary species. It HAS happened. And in different villages that have found bat coronaviruses in humans.

You have used this to argue against a natural source for the disease and this clearly undercuts your entire argument. It's not absurd to say that if you are finding bat coronavirus in villages that the incidence of them in humans number in the millions.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/41f6f9ba-db82-4782-8ec0-bc952abb3836

so the question remains, why is @Sweet Lou 4 2 trying so hard to maintain the fiction that the lab leak hypothesis is unlikely?

 

Because there still isn't any credible evidence that it came from a lab.

The question remains, why is @basso trying so hard to push the lab leak hypothesis?

 

Donald Trump also said Covid was a democratic hoax, praised China, and said we'd be in the pews by Easter...... maybe he meant Easter 2022?

 

Read the article again. It never says coronaviruses have jump directly from bats to humans. It said bat coronaviruses have infected human cells in a petri dish and they found signs that coronaviruses spilled over into humans in the villages.

If you go to the paper about the research it says "These results indicate that some SARSr-CoVs may have high potential to infect human cells, without the necessity for an intermediate host. However, to date, no evidence of direct transmission of SARSr-CoVs from bats to people has been reported." - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6178078/

 

You have a reading comprehension issue. This study IS the first evidence of direct transmission, that line refers to prior to their study as it is in the dear Editor portion of the study. To date, there hadn't been any evidence, and that is the setting upon which they did their research. If you read scientific papers then you should understand that.

 

i was where i always am on Easter.

 

...in your basement trying to troll people on the internet

 

I will repeat again that it was a mistake to just dismiss the lab leak theory over politics. Of course a lot of people don't like Trump but as "even a broken clock can be right twice a day." In this case there was compelling evidence that this could've been a leak from the Wuhan Institute and that the PRC covered it up.

To emphasize again that doesn't mean that was the only or the most likely explanation. Just saying the PRC is bad isn't proof in and of itself.

Also as far as redemption for Trump let's not forget that he did say a lab leak was possible but he also claimed that the PRC deliberately engineered it or even as another poster noted that Democrats engineered it. Those still remain very far fetched and defy reason.

The one thing we can say for certain about the origins of this virus is that it is a new virus that we hadn't seen before and that we know very little about. That could mean that it was a modified virus from gain of function but it could also mean that it out there and we hadn't discovered it before. Those avenues need to be investigated thoroughly. If it's a lab leak we need to know to improve the security of labs. If it's natural we need to know because there are a lot of viruses out there we haven't discovered yet and as humans push further into habitats with animals that had little interaction with humans before there is more danger of those viruses jumping to humans.

 

good summary

"The COVID lab-leak hypothesis: what scientists do and don’t know":

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

 

...Except When Other Asset Classes Provide Higher Risk Adjusted Yields.

 

related

"Why Media Failure Is A Major Story Of Our Time":

https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/10/why-media-failure-is-a-major-story-of-our-time/

excerpt:

Campaign platforms typically consist of policy goals. What the press never understood about Donald Trump is that he basically ran on media criticism and, sadly, a whole lot of it was entirely fair. That’s why it resonated. But even after the host of “Celebrity Apprentice” defeated the former Secretary of State in a presidential match-up, the media’s necessary course correction never materialized. Things have clearly gotten much, much worse.

They peddled the false, self-serving narratives of spies and flaks for years, miring the country in a silly melodrama over a pee tape. Then there’s the lab leak flip flop. How about the press’s treatment of Andrew Cuomo last spring? It doesn’t just happen on the major stories either.

We could talk about the hypocrisy of the press. We could talk about their intolerance for ideological diversity. We could talk about their elitism or their obsessions with Twitter. These are all variables in the equation of their failure. But the most important takeaway is that the media peddles glaring disinformation on a daily basis, on major stories. That’s a big deal because it’s misinforming voters, and much more effectively than those scary Boomer memes Putin put on Facebook.

Democracy dies in darkness, sure, but bumbling Harvard grads with press credentials can turn the light switch off with their incompetence just as much as corrupt rules can do it with their power and money. We desperately need the free press. It’s our only way to keep the government accountable and it’s a disaster right now. There’s your front page.
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more at the link

 

maybe Dame will bring Melo with him

 

The media is just a reflection of society at large.

 

Yes of course finding the source of a disease that has killed 600,000 Americans (more that WWII), millions around the World, still is killing, paralyzed much of the World isn't as important as that the main stream media isn't nice to the Right Wing.