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Chinese consulate in Houston ordered closed

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    When the US was abandoning Saigon to the communists, they shredded all their documents at the embassy and put them in bags for burning. But, when helicopters started using the embassy's helipad to airlift Americans to Navy boats, the winds created by the propellers broke open the bags and scattered the shredded paper everywhere and they couldn't be burned. Once the North Vietnamese occupied the embassy, intelligence officers collected the shreds, carefully reassembled the documents, and were able to identify and arrest South Vietnamese collaborators. The lesson being shredding is a half-measure; you really need to burn your paper documents if you have any hope of preserving confidentiality. They don't even need to be doing anything wrong in the Chinese Embassy. Whatever they leave behind will be carefully gleaned by the CIA for whatever intel value it has.
     
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    When I was working around highly classified material, we had NSA approved shredders that would shred documents into little slivers...basically looked like splinters that you pull out of your fingers. When the bag filled up (really, multiple bags), we would still have to schedule a burn appointment and take all the bags down there to have them burned. Same for crypto tape, address labels, etc.

    At one point, we could just throw the bags in the trash, but during the Iraq war in 2003, they were able to dumpster dive, pull out a bag, and eventually pieced together those slivers into a document..
     
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    They can't close it because they have nowhere else to watch the Rockets games since they are banned in China
     
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    The best one(s) I was familiar with basically turned the paper into dry slightly oily pulp.
     
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    Trust me there are plenty of ways to get around bans on content in the PRC.
     
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    This is very silly.
     
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    CCP won't stop until it's painful to do it. They'll use their 300 yr old victim complex until the cows come.

    US agents enter Chinese consulate compound in Houston after deadline for closure passes

    Washington (CNN)US federal agents and local law enforcement entered the Chinese consulate compound in Houston Friday afternoon following Tuesday's order to close the diplomatic facility after US officials alleged it was part of a larger Chinese espionage effort using diplomatic facilities around the US.

    A series of black SUVs, trucks, two white vans and a locksmith's van entered the property as a crowd of observers and news cameras observed from the edge of the diplomatic compound.

    US officials speaking to reporters Friday said the consulate had been implicated in a fraud investigation at a Texas research institution and that Chinese consulate officials, "were directly involved in communications with researchers and guided them on what information to collect."

    The activities of consulate officials in Houston "are a microcosm, we believe, of a broader network of individuals in more than 25 cities that network is supported through the consulates here," a US Justice Department official said Friday. "Consulates have been giving individuals in that network guidance on how to evade [and] obstruct our investigation. And you can infer from that the ability to task that [a] network of associates nationwide."

    The US had given China roughly 72 hours to "cease all operations and events" at the Houston facility on Tuesday, according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry, which called the move an "unprecedented escalation" amid ongoing tension between the two countries.

    Relations between China and the United States have plummeted in the past year, amid an ongoing trade war, the coronavirus pandemic, and US criticism of China's human rights abuses in Hong Kong and Xinjiang.

    Washington's demand for the Houston consulate to close set the stage for federal agents to enter the diplomatic compound on Friday afternoon. It also triggered a Chinese demand earlier Friday that the US close its consulate in Chengdu.

    Late Tuesday evening, police in Houston said they responded to reports of smoke in the courtyard outside the consulate, located on Montrose Boulevard, in the city's Midtown area. Local media shared video of what appeared to be officials inside the compound burning documents.

    US State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus said Wednesday the consulate was directed to close "in order to protect American intellectual property and Americans' private information."

    The idea to close the Houston consulate emerged this spring after China interfered when US officials returned to the consulate in Wuhan to retrieve diplomatic materials, according to a senior State Department official.

    Chinese authorities refused to let the US officials leave Wuhan with the pouches, saying they had to search them before leaving, an aggressive move that violates the Vienna Convention which governs diplomatic relations. The encounter left Secretary of State Mike Pompeo irate, the State Department official said.
     
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    Whoosh. He was making a joke. :D
     
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    We should ban them from Kemah
     
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    Dang she was in Chinese military.
    What is really crazy
    Is that she chose her name to be Juan!
    Shouldn’t it be Juanita ???
    @Os Trigonum @Reeko
    @rocketsjudoka @RayRay10
    Does she post on Clutchfans with WNBA?
    That should have been red flag number one
    The FBI needs to find her sister Carlos Tang
    And brother Selina Tang
     
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    lol ... Juan.

    TIL: Juan (Mandarin pronunciation: [tɕɥɛ̂n] or [tɕɥɛ́n] 娟, 隽) "beautiful, graceful" is a common given name for Chinese women.
     
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    Her mom, Enrique, must be proud
     
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    Ted Cruz on Face the Nation is saying that other consulates might be closed.
     
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