Wow, a wrong perception of the intent of this thread.. He is asking the question of chinese bbs'ers, the title is just a little mis-directing is all.. I'm Australian, and i agree it's ridiculous, there were a number of plays in the 4th where u could see Ilgauskas just pushing all over Yao as he went into a move or shot, and there was NOTHING from the refs. I don't remember seeing the same things happen to Shaq. When people were pushing and shoving Shaq, he was going through the defender twice as hard... Yao doesnt try to bull his way through the defender like that, yet the refs let the defender go all out at Yao... *sniff, sniff*, smells funny...
http://bbs.hoopchina.com/rockets This is the biggest rockets fans forum in China, Im gonna show you some threads had been posted in first page. 1.a letter to one ref 2.this is how i analise this game 3.the analysis of 4 fouls on Yao 4. the refs are so lame, but it doesnt mean we have no faults 5.refs' question, rockets ask question 6. ref! you owed me a good game! 7.NBA is just a stage, dont be serious
NBA is controlled by Stern through the refs. NBA is a fantasy to some people. NBA is not a sport at all, it's just some kind of entertainment and money making machine for some people. I love this game? Most people (> 1 billion) actually hate this game after tonight's game...
I was wondering whether the NBA in fact had 2 sets of rules: one for big players and the other for players below 6' 10"?
1) Clutch has already established that name-calling in the GARM is unacceptable and can result in loss of posting privileges. You've been here since 2003 so you should know better by now. 2) Your kiddie name-calling behavior towards a Chinese poster (who said absolutely nothing offensive in the first place) is discouraging further replies from other Chinese posters in this thread - replies which I had sought out specifically from them in the original post. That's why I asked you to lose the attitude in here, if just for a day at least.
This has been discussed ad nauseum before, but it bears repeating. Many fouls on Shaq were uncalled. This is true... BUT Shaq got away with offensive fouls like you wouldn't believe. It was a give and take situation. Refs allow Shaq and defenders to do anything they want. If you think Yao gets away with the level of aggression that Shaq does, then I want some of what you're smoking.
net net, when you talk about "biased officiating" with shaq, it slants towards being biased in FAVOR of shaq. he's been given latitude to physically push guys around like no other player in NBA history and his early power game (punctuated by all those backboards he busted as a young buck) was predicated on him being ALLOWED and even encouraged by the league to roll over defenders with extreme physicality. now that shaq is old he complains a lot about guys pushing him and doubling teaming but ironically it's because he himself has gotten too old to keep up physically. $tern established early that shaq would be officiated differently... that he could PLAY physically and that other teams could counter somewhat physically on him. now that shaq's old he wants the rules changed yet again but this actually a case where the refs are consistent with how they did him earlier in his career. shaq's also been treated UNCHARACTERISTICALLY favorably especially in terms of flagrant fouls, fights and techs. compare yao who gets TOed for any sign of frustration, when shaq could shaq fu guys and threaten to beat guys up on the court with the barest slap on the wrist. in that phoenix dust up who got off the lightest for his actions? as for OP. chinese and americans are different. we share the global economy but having spent time over there they are fundamentally different. "chinese perception" will only be what the government-driven press teaches them to be. when you have a lot of government agitation (over tibet or the olympic torch) people will be up in arms like you never see in the US. but powerful interests connected to the NBA would never allow a perception of bias to exist in china. the AVERAGE chinese basically does NOT comprehend the corruption in the NBA. they may think some of the calls are unfair but they often blame yao's softness or think as he gets seniority he'll get better calls. so in short.... no. chinese are not taught to think the NBA is biased towards Yao. so they do not think the NBA is biased towards yao.
This is just in time. Starting from this season, CCTV's every night sports news has only about 5 minutes session for NBA, sometimes even less. Tonight, they used all 5 minutes to talked about the ref's 'show' in that game, and barely talked about other games. It's interesting that this season, CBA and CCTV spend a lot effort developing the CBA league. Now CBA league gets more and more attension. Of course guys like Bonzi and Snyder also help a lot to bring fans into the game. So, now CCTV gives more and more time for CBA games and news while reduces a bit of NBA. Just my evil thinking: it's actually good for some people if fans start to think NBA is just a setup game and they're biased to Yao. And what ref did in the Cleveland game is perfect for that matter. Good for NBA, good for CBA. After all, Chinese market is only 2nd or 3rd most important for NBA. So in a marketing point of view, for Stern, LBJ >>> Yao. As for the fans, in many Chinese websites ( sina, sohu ... ) and forums the topic of 'NBA refs being biased on Yao' has been on for years. It's not new. ---- To 'bloop': who are you drawing conclusion on all Chinese people? Who 'taught' you that?
This is a completely r****ded point of view. The NBA would like nothing more than for Yao to succeed. All it would do is popularize the game more in China which would drive more Chinese to play basketball which in turn deepens the talent pool for the NBA and drives up revenues through TV and merchandising in the meantime. There is precedent for players getting the short end of calls until they got seniority in the league and any Rockets fan knows a great example for such a scenario and that is one Hakeem Olajuwon. He would routinely get beat up by opponents in the league until the Rockets became a Finals caliber team later in his career. In Hakeem's case it was because he'd developed a reputation for his temper and for getting into fights earlier in his career. In Yao's case it's probably because he's huge which diminishes the impact of physical play on him (same issue with Shaq) but mostly because he's soft as paper mache and in the NBA, aggressive offensive action draws fouls while timid offensive action doesn't. Finesse fallaway jumpers and layups don't draw as many fouls as aggressive jump hooks, drives, and dunks... regardless of the physicality of the defense.
If Stern really thought giving unfair treatments to different players would be good for marketing, then he would be pretty stupid. That would only render the NBA as something like pro-wrestling. The real basketball fans would lose interest eventually.
Why do you keep insisting on bringing race into this? Neither the OP nor robby_33 is throwing around the race card. Just simply wondering why Yao gets officiated so poorly (he's a big man? not aggressive?, NBA favors the cavs/lakers/celtic (conspiracy)? not vocal enough? etc) and what people in china thought.
