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China Violating UN Embargo, Providing Arms & Training to Sudan Army

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jul 13, 2008.

  1. longhornchampno

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    He thinks I am a wife-beater or I am even married? Really? How so?

    Why didn't you question that? Are you just programmed to criticize a certain posters only and keep a blind eye to whatever the other posters says?
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    Why China is Sudan's most important ally

    As recently as last April, long after its arms sales to Sudan had come under attack, China’s defence minister promised the two countries would “continue to increase military co-operation”.

    China has supplied helicopters, attack aircraft and trainer jets to Mr Bashir’s air force. According to campaign groups, in 2005 Beijing also sold £45 million of spare parts, smalls arms and ammunition. These supplies have continued despite a United Nations arms embargo on Darfur.

    Beijing says that a principled opposition to sanctions “which make matters worse” and to “interference in the affairs of sovereign countries” lies behind its stance. China says that its involvement helps Sudan’s security and economic growth.

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  3. myco

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    His (Ottomaton's) statement wasn't meant to be taken that you literally beat your wife.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    China Expresses 'Grave Concern' Over Indictment of Sudan's Bashir

    China voiced concern yesterday over charges by the International Criminal Court implicating Sudan's President Omar Hassan al-Bashir in state-sponsored acts of genocide in the country's embattled Darfur region, but there was no indication it would move to stall the process so close to the Aug. 8 opening of the Beijing Olympic Games.

    "China expresses grave concern and misgivings about the International Criminal Court prosecutor's indictment of the Sudanese leader," Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told a regularly scheduled news conference in Beijing, according to the Reuters news service.

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  5. yuantian

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    i think by now, everything knows this already. :D along with a few other posters. it's like MMO, you've got 2 sides constantly going at each other. :D
     
  6. yuantian

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    how come you don't mention that eygpt, and those mideastern countries expressed same feeling? the entire world doesn't rotate around western countries. :rolleyes: we say what we want damn it.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Egypt is a sham government ruled by a dictator for life. Nobody has any expectations of Egypt, or particularly cares.

    China as a UN Security Council member (while being desperately insecure about national pride, ironically enough) and wants to be taken seriously in world affairs.

    Well you want it - you got it. China's support for the Sudanese and the Janjaweeds has been duly noted.
     
  8. yuantian

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    according to twisted media in the west. then sure. like we care what these fake news say. and if UN started to be global police based on certain faction's preference, then i say abolish that piece of crap.

    look, it's a multi-polar world. accept it. russia, china, mideast, africa, latin america won't see eye to eye with you guys on every damn issue.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    In which China should be immune from criticism is the key point that you're leaving out.

    There's a great column on Chinese-Russian disreputable conduct today on Mugabe. I will post it later in keeping with China's great power status.
     
  10. yuantian

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    it is what it is. if people criticize china, go for it. we do things for our own national interests just how the US does the same. china and russia have complicated relationships anyway. the only reason we are working together is that the western world is being a bully. others are forced to work together to counter it. do you expect people just go bow down on everything? wake up. western world is NOT immune from challenges.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    It's funny to see China and Russia playing the victim card when they regularly try to push their neighbors around.

    Anyway - China and Russia have picked some pretty sh-tty friends like Mugabe order to resist anti-western "bullies" - pretty reprehensible.
     
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    yawn, and western powers support saudi although they have terrible human rights records as well. get over it, major powers do what ever the f--- the want.
     
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    No it is perfectly fine if western powers support these types of governments but if China does it to get the natural resouce it desperately need, it is the evil power of this world.
     
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    What speakers do you have ?
     
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    You do understand what a UN Security Council Resolution is, right?
     
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    Of course. How many times have US stopped UN resolution to sanction countries like Isreal, South Africa and other countries US want to protect over the last fifty years?
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    Right. And since China is on the security council, they could have vetoed this measure. They didn't. Instead they chose to let it pass and then violated it repeatedly.

    See the difference?
     
  18. SamFisher

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    I'm not sure where you get that people think "it's perfectly fine" that western governments do this - it makes a nice stanza in the victiimzation song you are trying to sing but there's no truth to it.
     
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    Clearly sarcasm is not something he "gets."




    Impeach Bush/Nixon... I mean Cheney.
     
  20. wnes

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    Violated? What violation? Just because British BullCrap says so?

    A couple of weeks ago BBC reported a teenage girl in Weng'an County of Guizhou Province in China was raped and drowned by the son of a local official, and girl's uncle was beaten to death by the local police. It turned out none of these was true, everything was a made up lie. The girl who was depressed due to family problem committed suicide by jumping into the river herself. The boyfriend she was with was a poor factory worker himself and has no relation with local officials whatsoever. Moreover, the dead girl's uncle, though beaten by street thugs, wasn't even dead. When it comes to reporting China, BBC pretty much amounts to hoops world on NBA.
     

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