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China Question: What Form of Government Do They Have?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Cohete Rojo

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    • aliance = a union or association formed for mutual benefit, especially between countries or organizations
    • The US has a trade association formed for mutual benefit with China = The US has a trade alliance with China

    Need more?
     
  2. ymc

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    I think this can be a good thread if we stay on discussing what China looks like as suggested in the first post.
     
  3. Amiga

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    Aliance = not a word.
    Thus, the US does not have a trade aliance with anyone.

    Clearly, it's more important to talk about a word then the subject to you. Who care if it's trade alliance or trade partner when the answer you seek is whether we should be doing that. But no, you couldn't allow trade partner, it must be trade alliance. LOL. This is why you are being viewed as a troll sometime, or just strange.
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

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    Partner, alliance, whatever. Look at how everyone in this thread is reacting to the question and attempting to split hairs over the word "alliance".

    Is the US on the right side of history with its partnership with China?
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    The PRC government is an authoritarian oligarchy run by the Chinese Communist Party. Communism is the official state ideology but not used in practice. The economics of the country are primarily capitalistic but with the state playing a guiding role acting at times both pragmatically and also corruptly.

    The question of whether the US is on the right side of history is an interesting moral question but one that is essentially meaningless given where the world is. On paper there are two Chinas but practically there is only one Chinese government. The ROC controls a very tiny portion of land and population compared to the PRC, The population of Taiwan is less than the population of metro area Shanghai. Even the KMT party (the Chinese Nationalist) pretty much accepts that the CCP rules China and deals with them on that basis. The idea that the ROC is the official government of China is not even held by Taiwan.

    For practical economic concerns the PRC is the World's second largest economy and with or without the US will continue to be a major economic player. The PRC has trade relationships (trade alliances if you want to use that term ) with pretty much the rest of the world. If the US is on the wrong side of history for trading with the PRC then so is the rest of the world including Taiwan. Besides just trade the PRC is a major creditor and investor in the US and also vice versa. Where one economy ends and the other begins isn't exactly clear cut and the US couldn't just end economic relations with the PRC without very severe consequences to its own economy.
     
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    Where you are getting hung up is that "alliance" has a very specific diplomatic and military meaning. Using the term for things like other relationships between countries is confusing and / or sloppy. Using your definition above one could claim that the US has an alliance with NK because both countries are in the UN and are part of the same union and association.
     
  7. Amiga

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    When superfob said we are trading partners, you called it bizzard, obfuscating. It's 10x more accurate to use that term then trade alliance, and at worst, it's in the ballpark, but you completely rejected it.

    This is a good example why I and many other can't take you serious. It's a shame because on occasion, you do have interesting points.
     
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    Recently, a Tsinghua U professor said China has US$22T worth of RMB circulating against US$3T worth of foreign reserve (ratio 7.33:1).

    In contrast, Japan has 945T yen circulating against US$1.2T foreign reserve (ratio 6.73:1), Hong Kong has US$1.6T circulating against US$0.383T foreign reserve (ratio 4.2:1)

    So there seems to be some room for RMB to depreciate.
     
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    Please go back and read what I had typed. I never said there was a military alliance.
     
  10. Cohete Rojo

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    Please go back and read what I typed. I never said the US had a military alliance with China. For someone who claims that CO2 is poisonous, you sure do come off as a know-it-all.
     
  11. Amiga

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    I don't think anyone insisted you did and I didn't bring up that point at all. And that's not the point. The point is you did completely dismissed trade partner. Anyhow, this is just weird. Be as you are. Bye.
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    Uh, superfob, who you cited in your previous post, certainly brought up the red herring about military alliance. Sorry your reading comprehension is not so strong.
     
  13. Amiga

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    i didn't go back to read @superfob post again, but i'll take your word for it...

    so is that reason why you are so adamant on rejecting "trade partner"?
     
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    That's hilarious coming from you.
     
  15. superfob

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    Because no one uses the term alliance when describing trade.
    Is prostitution a sex alliance?

    Anyways, since @ymc has covered your initial question and then some, there's not much point in continuing this thread.

    The best I can come up with, is that you disapprove of the US trading with the 2nd largest economy in the world.
     
  16. Cohete Rojo

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    You read into something that wasn't there. That is a literal example of reading comprehension failure.

    Not sure what to make of what you think.
     
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    You were very vague, most likely intentionally. If unintentionally, then colloquially, countries are trading partners, not trading alliances.

    So how about you answer you own question for us so we can see your thoughts?
     
  18. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    Laughable because no one in this thread has been able to comprehend your posts.

    That is the definition of obtuse.
     

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