I did no such thing. Looks like you are looking to pick a fight. I could not care less about "who is right" in this particular incident, I fully accept that world politics will never amount to much more than might makes right. I think the U.S. and China are both engaging in a bit of a penis slinging contest, and I completely understand why. There was no clear line that was crossed here by either side, I think. Both have legitimate gripes.
Don't worry about it. Anything posted here about China brings out the heavy paranoia and nationalism in wnes. He comes unglued like that. You should have been around during the Olympics... wow.
Every threads about China bring out these Chinese posters, they're liked the cucarachas, annoying as hell and tough to get rid of. If you want to piss them off, just bring up Tibet!
There is no mentioning whatsoever that the location where the U.S. surveillance ship was "harassed" is in a disputed EEZ. Even if the said EEZ location is disputed, it would only possibly involve Vietnam by proximity, but absolutely zilch to do with U.S. While the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea stipulates that a foreign state can enjoy the freedom of navigation and overflight in an EEZ that is under the jurisdiction of a coastal state, it does not prescribe any foreign state the liberty to spy. Using a somewhat imperfect analogy, an EEZ is like a public easement (think of side walk) of a private property. You can freely walk by the property via the side walk without asking for permission. But if you try to be a peeping Tom encroaching on the easement, unpleasantry and possible hostility are bound to happen. It may be argued whether PRC was over aggressive to confront the U.S. spy ship, but the illegitimacy of operating spy ship in PRC's EEZ is indisputable.
Way to pigeonhole all of us buddy. With comments like these, and you're wondering why some Chinese posters are pissed off?
Say whatever you want about your idea of what should and should not be allowed in the EEZ. It is what it is. I can tell you that I'm glad those ships are there doing their job.
Pretty much might makes right is the final truth. Do you think US would be doing any of this stuff if it doesn't have the strongest military in the world? I wonder what will happen when US is no longer the number one military power in the world in the future.
Might does make right sometimes. You think the Chinese don't keep an eye on us? If we are to stay the number one military power in the world, we need to be prepared. The better prepared we are, the better our chances for success. I'd rather those ships be there, then our guys go into a war not knowing how to fight our enemy. Hopefully it never comes to that, but there's no guarantee.
Throwing trash at each other, blocking 'the path', spraying each other with hoses and stripping down to underwear...this sounds more like frat party hazing than a military issue.
Que bono? The timing in relation to other events seems awfully convenient. It is a move from the old school playbook to fan nationalism when there is a potential perceived threat to national cohesion. In light of the incidents last year leading up to the Olympics, it seems more plausible. No idea whether this is actually the case or not, but it does seem like a reasonable possibility.
It is better to have small penis than small brain. Some people have so small brains that they can not think anything outside of certain part of their bodies and ended up with nothing to f*uck.
The problem is, the more you "prepared" like this, the more likely you end up with a war you are not prepared. funny, uh?
Yes, you're more prepared. You learn more about your potential opponent. I hate to break it to you, but the chances of what we do in this case starting a war are not very high. Again I'm glad for the job those guys are out there doing. It could help down the line.
LOL, I am sure Clutch doesn't mind the number of hits us "cucarachas" bring to his site. You don't like it? Tough! Same deal on Tibet. China is in Tibet to stay. Anyone doesn't like it? Tough! Same deal on this incident. America is going to keep trying to push its spy ships as close to China as possible. China doesn't like it? Tough! China is going to continue to "harrass" those ships any way it can. America doesn't like it? Tough! They are going to hurl insults at each other occassionally, then get back in bed together again to make, err, money. Anyone else doesn't like it? Tough!
Need I remind you that it's the Americans who made this a public issue? I think someone in the Pentagon thinks Hillary was cozying up to the Chinese a bit too much on her recent Beijing trip.
The original article makes no mention of the EEZ so we don't know where exactly the ships were but the location does matter if this was in a disputed EEZ since you have brougth up that issue. If it was a disputed EEZ any PRC claims are in doubt since there is the issue whether the PRC is legally entitled to patrol it. I've just taken a look at the UN Law on EEZ and actually it doesn't mention anything regarding surveillance activities. It primarily deals with resources such as fisheries. http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part5.htm
