China Basketball Post Yao: "Oh no, we suck again!"

They never did anything besides suck, Yao Ming or not.

 

I'm sorry but they sucked even with yao

 

CNT's guard play was horrible. they couldn't even effectively hit yao in the post. If they could do that then they wouldn't have sucked so bad.

 

this. I heard that they have serious problems developing talent. Local coaches would just pick to develop the highest scorers with very little emphasis on defense, rebounding, passing, etc.

Jeremy Lin is the best Chinese basketball player in the world now. Imagine if the best American player was some guy born on some foreign naval base.

 

NBA guards had trouble hitting Yao in the post too.

 

Like they would even miss Yao.

2007 FIBA Asian Championship: Did not play

2008 Olympics: Played hurt and was totally ineffective

2009 FIBA Asian Championship: Did not play

2010 FIBA World Championship: Did not play


Yao did not provide an ounce of help to China's national team since 2006.

 

oh no, OHMSS strikes again...go watch the Beijing Olympics games again, please.

 

There is a very good reason why you remain a rookie. It's called ignorance.

 

Apparently, a totally ineffective Yao averaged: 20.7 PPG, 9.3 RPG, .559 FG%

 

They have so many problems developing talent at the guard positions because the social system combined with the athletic system in place in China is not conducive to producing great players. With respect to the social system, China like many other East Asian nations place a ridiculous emphasis on education and extracurricular activities outside of the sporting realm. Unlike in the West where everyone gets a chance to go to college either through monetary sources, study, or the vast availability of colleges, China is absolutely the opposite. I've been to China and what every student does starting from an early age is focus all their free time studying for the gao kao, a more intense version of the SAT in which your entire life after high school rides upon how well you do on the test. Obviously, students can't afford to use their free time playing sports, basketball in this case because becoming a professional basketball is unlikely no matter what country you come from. Coupling this dynamic with the basketball system in which scouts and coaches select kids who are tall for their age, which is really the wrong way to go about developing talent, is clearly what's wrong with Chinese basketball. Unless this changes, I don't see any big time perimeter player coming out of China anytime soon. We'll see another Yao Ming before we'll see a Chinese Kobe Bryant.

 

Sun Yue is pretty good, he's not enough to save the national team though.

 

Chinese cannot afford to have their kids play basketball.

1) Chinese couples (with specific exceptions) can only have 1 child
2) There is a lack of a social safety net in China, making a)family savings and b)contributions from children the only way for the elderly to feed themselves in old age

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3) Kids who specialize in sports instead of "ridiculous" self improvement through education have very few job skills, since most all of serious sports development are in academies where kids dont even finish high school
4) China lacks employment opportunities in sports for the vast majority of former athletes.

it's not any of that crap you wrote.

further "a ridiculous emphasis on education and extracurricular activities" is your own subjective opinion. if anything a system with an objective fair testing system, regardless of the stress level is 100x better than the system we have in the US where your race, parental legacy status, donations to the university, etc determine who gets in where. trust me no one in China has to score 200 points higher on their standardized tests to get into NYU or get $2500 less in financial aid because they happen to be a particular yellow skin color like here in the US. no kid with a particular darker skin shade is getting a free ride at a Chinese college due to the talent of having been born a bit a melanin.

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none of this has to do with China's basketball problem. the problem isn't getting kids INTO the sport. China has thousands of of enormously talented, tall (7 foot etc) kids in the system. it doesn't have to do with any of that crap about culture or kids not being able to play sport. the problem is a specific one with the basketball sports bureaucracy not being able to develop basketball players past the CBA level... they can get a team to the top 10 or so in the world, the problem is mechanical, institutional SPECIFIC issues with a specific sports bureaucracy being able to take that next step to elite world level. it's not cultural it's mechanical. they lack the ability to develop those players further.

even all things being perfect it would likely take decades for chinese basketball to catch up to american basketball as it took decades for Japanese baseball to catch up to American baseball

bottom line is that Yao is an aberration. he is a 1 in a billion talent who succeeded despite having been born in China and having been developed by the CNT not because of it. really if anything Yao is a reverse atavism... a superhuman organism realized generations before his proper time. you're never going to see another Yao, ever, in your lifetime.

 

So stats mean everything? Yao was gassed the whole time and never played any defense. On offense, they were often just spending the whole time trying to get him the ball, as he failed to establish position.

Your stats are also wrong.

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08...son//teamnumber/262/fe_teamPlay_playStat.html

19.0 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 1.2 APG, 51.5 FG%


And that included him padding his stats big time against Angola, a team with no one over 6-8 on their roster, where he had:

30 points on 10-11 FG

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08...nglc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html

 

Aren't you the guy who said that Euroleague players are better than NBA players? HA. HA. HA.
So what is your final conclusion? That Yao sucks? LOL.

 

OHMSS can't stand the thought of Yao Ming being classified as a great player.

 

Yao is one of my all-time favorite players ever. Obviously, I was actually watching the 2008 Olympics, unli9ke the others commenting here.

 

There is no bigger Yao fan than me. I am simply stating facts. Yao was not healthy at the 2008 Olympics and he did not play well.

 

you're a bad scout, he was hurt and was out of shape, BUT he was STILL THEIR BEST PLAYER and most effective player too.

 

http://cbachina.sports.sohu.com/20110726/n314660277.shtml

China National Team's American head coach is complaning about the schedule of their warm-up tournament (for this year's Olympic qualifier). Apparently the "warm up" tournament has the team playing 8 games in 9 days.

Who is the genius that came up with this?