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China Bans Tiananmen Square Video during Olympics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by richirich, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    One the bombs (nukes) weren't available until to be dropped earlier and two the US might not have gotten close enough to the Japanese home islands to drop the bombs.

    Anyway in regard to the island hopping strategy. If the island hopping strategy didn't work the US was looking at the Chinese front as also a way to get close enouth to the Japanese home islands to launch bombers from.
     
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    IF, Japan occupied China within 3 months as they expected, they would have 6-7 years to strengthen their occupation in China, and the whole Asia. Why would they park thousands of troops on those tiny islands? What about they use China and the whole Asia as battle fields instead of those islands? What about they use the land as naval bases, instead of islands and long distance transportation? What about they use the resources in China to support their war? What about they give up their homeland islands? How was the war in Europe won against Nazi Germany by Russians, Americans, and Brits? On the land. Yes, the war against Japan was won in the air and sea, ON THE END. Have you thought about the difference would be, without those insignificant Chinese effort to battle 1.8 million Japanese troops in those long and hard 8 years, on the land?

    Is it that hard to figure out? But then again, you are the one believes capitalism competitive news resource makes you immune of brainwashing.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    The problem is though you are looking at this very narrowly and only considering the surface results without looking at everything that went on behind it. The US could establish naval and air supremacy because Japan lacked enough resources to rapidly replace and rebuild their war machine. Remember that up until about Midway the US had lost more ships and planes than Japan had. The Japanese couldn't reach the geographic US to bomb plants there, also didn't have the resources to launch anything but a raid on Hawaii. If they hadn't been fighting in China they might've had more resources to try to take Hawaii, there were Japanese war plans for that and even for attacking California that were ruled out. Further basing industry on mainland China would've given them a secure industrial base far from allied bombing to rebuild their war machine.

    While the island hopping strategy was a brilliant strategy and well executed you have to look at the Japanese inability to respond to that strategy offensively. If they had more resources and industrial and military sites deep in mainland Asia the island hoping strategy wouldn't have worked.
     
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    Your own personal experience at youth is still vivid and painful, isn't it? LOL.
     
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    Actually, if the US hadn't dropped the bomb both countries would probably have been under Soviet rule.
     
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    i doubt it. japan maybe under soviet occupation and made into a communist country. i doubt the soviet wanted to get into china. that wouldn't looked good in the communist world at the time. i doubt they had the resource at the time either. US was "lucky" in that, the mainland was far from the war zone. all other countries were pretty much bombed all over.
     
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    You know, I'm really not surprised about this coming from an idiot like you. 1 rifle per 3 guys huh? No, I think he was planning more to use the 1.6 million men, 28,000 pieces of artillery, 3,800 tanks and 5,500 aircrafts (or there abouts), something like he did in, say... Operation August Storm? Oh wait, that actually happened.

    Invade whom? Nowhere in the last post of mine suggested the PLA invade anybody. And since the Chinese are not building a carrier, that's one heck of an ego boost.

    What's the matter, is the oxygen flow being cut to your brain? Never mind.
     
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    Got the orders reversed, 5,500 tanks and 3,800 aircrafts.
     

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