What does your bloodline have anything to do with an opinion? Once people step away from race and use their brains over their skin tone, the world will be a much better place. DD
We're still months away from the Olympics and China is teetering on a full media lock down -- good luck with that PRC.
Racist, Classist; what 's the difference? Mao rivaled Hitler in causing mass genocide within the national borders during the Cultural Revolution. Exiling people to mass starvation may not be as direct and overt as gassing them but it certainly is as effective. Surely the Chinese posters here are aware that inside their borders they are subject to a one sided propaganda. Without free speech and open debate you can never arrive at the consensus we call truth.
hm... the difference is intention. mao never intended to cause mass starvation. on the other hand, hitler did those bad things on purpose. cultural revolution, in part, was a tool for power struggle. everyone knows it's a mistaken within china. in fact, members of my family were labeled as "counter revolutionary" and was beaten and locked up during cultural revolution. but if you ask they what they think, they would tell you that it was a mistake. but to compare mao with hitler would probably piss them off too.
sorry, didn't read it. i just don't get why people are comparing mao with hitler. totally different people with different ideas.
My reactions to the article and some of the responses, 1, dumb commies. They really need to start learning the art of propaganda, err I mean public relations, from the west. 2, yeah, China is gonna get bad press. But then China ALWAYS gets bad press in the west anyway, justified or un-justified, with or without the Olympics, and that didn't seem to have hurt China a bit in the last twenty years or so. So I don't think China really cares. 3, people should be careful of treating western opinion (specifically that of North America and Western Europe) as "world opinion". There was a British study done recently on the image held by the people around the world of some of the most powerful nations, and China actually scored fairly well. So I guess maybe I should qualify my statement #1 a little bit. Guess which nation has the worst image around the world though. 4, this comparison of China with Nazism, I think it has a point. Nazi literally means National Socialist afterall. And Nationalism and Socialism are obviously both ideologies which China espouses. The thing is, I don't think China sharing some characteristics with the Nazis is necessarily a bad thing. The Nazis, afterall, did a fairly good job, economically and socially, for Germany if I remember correctly. It was their expansionism and racism which made them evil. And I don't think these two ideologies are prevalent in China. In fact, another nation again probably comes to the minds of most people around the world when it comes to these two things.
Fascism and National socialism are the antithesis of freedom of thought and expression. We fight it everyday here in America too. If Dick Cheney and Karl Rove could have their way, America would be a one party state where the oligarchs run government (by lobbying and funding their own candidates) and personal freedom would be sacrificed in the heroic battle against the outside forces of evil. It's the same in Venezuela, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Burma, North Korea, Sudan, Lybia etc. etc. The key here. and how we got to this in this thread is that, when the government controls all the information is when the people suffer oppression. But inviting the free press within the sanctum, information becomes impossible to control. All the warts will be exposed. And in the long run, this is a good thing for the people. So the joke is, the leaders of the New China thought the Olympics would showcase the results of their glorious stewardship; when in fact they are going to face exposure and dissent like they never dreamed possible. It goes along with the 'law of unintended consequences' and the old fable "that no good deed goes unpunished". We are having our on little problem with those principles in trying to bring freedom to the good people of Iraq.
You made no reaction to the substance of the article. Broadcasters from around the world have been banned from shooting video reports from the heart of China ~ Tienanmen Square. Please take the time to explain how this is a positive decision.
Believe me, I am all for freedom of thought and expression. Off topic, I have a little problem with your last paragraph, did anybody bother to ask "the good people of Iraq"? Did we go in there to "bring freedom"? Didn't it have something to do with WMD? Our government lied to invade another country, yet when that lie got exposed, the general public essentially gave a collective shrug. Freedom of thought and expression, it seems, has its limitations.
I think you should learn something about chinese history before insulting people. china ceased to be really "communist" country after Mao died. It is a fascist country now for all intents and purposes except that the ruling party instead of being called the Nazi party is called the Communist party. And if I'm not mistaken most people in China have never even heard about Tianemen Square in the first place because of all the censorship that went on in the country.
are you ****ing kidding me? i was 9 years old at the time. even i knew what was going on there. some people are really brainwashed out here.
well, I suppose it'd matter what part of the country you were living in. Anyway, that's what I was told so I'm not claiming any expertise there.
sorry about my re-action. but anyways, i was in a city pretty far from Beijing. a lot students in the university that my dad worked at, drove in trucks to Beijing. however, a lot of them just wanted to skip school. many of them returned before the crackdown cause they didn't know why they were there. of course, the hardcore students stayed and we all know what happened after that.
Exactly, that's what you were told. Everybody, either here or in China, has been lied to in one way or another. No country is free from propaganda. The key is to try to learn as much as you can from all sides and try to think independently. A smug belief in one's own superiority only leads to igorance, prejudice, and hyprocrisy.
when you say brainwashed out here... what do you mean by out here? In America? If so, then you need to rethink that statement sir. We have a thing here called free press, which means we can get factual information ANY time we want.
