China, and the competitive edge of having no moral culpability

Invisible Fan · Apr 14, 2025

Space Ghost said: ↑

Also, Americans have become completely clueless how advanced China has become. And what do they do? They go out and vandalize and torch the products of one of Americas greatest automation hubs (tesla). Idiots.

For the slow people in the thread... This is China's retaliation to tariffs.
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Frogs in a boiling pot...Frogs in a well...

strosb4bros · Apr 14, 2025

Amiga said: ↑

It's not global, but regional (mostly countries across the pacific ocean in America and Asia). As the lead, you are writing the rules or have heavy influence on it. Chian has actually tried to join this group to do exactly that - influence the rules.

Again, the TPP was originally a direct response to China's trade practices - one that Trump abandoned, then later tried to rejoin, but couldn't.

Now, he's taking a wrecking ball as his "solution," risking a global recession and alienating traditional allies. It has been, so far, a disaster in its execution.
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The execution has a ton of room for improvement. It was clunky and OTT, resulting in a whipsaw he had to back down from.

But big deals totaling over a trillion dollars have been struck from Apple, TSM and NVDA creating manufacturing onshore. Psychological negotiation tactics create a sense of urgency whether you like them or not.

strosb4bros · Apr 14, 2025

Space Ghost said: ↑

This thread is rich in irony. b****ing and moaning China doesn't follow the rules but somehow Americans feel entitled to spread 'American Democracy' through force all around the world. And in the end, the wealthiest of Americans profit and the middle class gets to enjoy low cost goods. Without these low cost goods, these same Americans would be living like the Chinese peasants they mock. And then they b**** and moan about chinese slave labor (which they are pretty clueless on this subject too) while American import millions of illegals to abuse.

Also, Americans have become completely clueless how advanced China has become. And what do they do? They go out and vandalize and torch the products of one of Americas greatest automation hubs (tesla). Idiots.

For the slow people in the thread... This is China's retaliation to tariffs.

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I don't think anyone see's clothing manufacturing as something Americans want to onshore. It will always be made in third world countries. But the tech and auto industries , with a human guiding a robotics arm fitted with AI, is going to be a well paying job that will be worth onshoring. It helps to bridge the income gap when the top 5-10% who do all the spending have to pay a little more to goods that go a manufacturing middle class.

daywalker02 · Apr 14, 2025

Invisible Fan · Apr 15, 2025

NYT is three to ten years too late reporting this. So many lies from the MSM and they continue not to even acknowledge being "asleep" at the wheel while everyone is forced to confront the truth. Good ol futurist Tommy Friedman pulling a Paul Revere after the **** hits the fan.

Hell, making a campaign isssue in their papers about it might've given enough clout to have Americans demand "experts" who have have lived there in the past 5 years and could at least read and speak Chinese at high enough levels to influence policy...Until Looney Loomer fires them for being hidden agents or something.

We have less than 3 months to cram for an exam China spent 20 years to prepare for.

rockbox · Apr 15, 2025

amuro01 said: ↑

As a Chinese person, I find such remarks deeply regrettable. Thankfully, we don"t have to kiss Mr. Trump"s ass.
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That has to be the most blatantly racist thing I've read on this board. Ignorance is a hell of a drug.

pirc1 · Apr 15, 2025

Invisible Fan said: ↑

NYT is three to ten years too late reporting this. So many lies from the MSM and they continue not to even acknowledge being "asleep" at the wheel while everyone is forced to confront the truth. Good ol futurist Tommy Friedman pulling a Paul Revere after the **** hits the fan.

Hell, making a campaign isssue in their papers about it might've given enough clout to have Americans demand "experts" who have have lived there in the past 5 years and could at least read and speak Chinese at high enough levels to influence policy...Until Looney Loomer fires them for being hidden agents or something.

We have less than 3 months to cram for an exam China spent 20 years to prepare for.
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The problem is no one will listen or care about this.

pirc1 · Apr 17, 2025

Do you agree with this Chinese young man.

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