Children of US troops born overseas -> not citizen

here I went ahead, went out of my way to get a quote from what I imagine is one of your favorite most reliable news sources. I chose this because I'm sure it's a network you believe in.

here is your policy:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/policy-guidelines-on-us-citizenship/index.html

here is your networks story
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/us-military-employee-citizenship-rule/index.html

here's a quote from your networks story:
"The rule appears to primarily affect the children of naturalized US citizens serving in the armed forces who have not lived in the US for a required period of time, a relatively small number -- estimated to be approximately 100 annually, according to a Defense Department official.
It does not impact anyone born in the United States."

 

I heard Donald Trump say that the country is full. If the country is full, what can you do?

Maybe this is why Trump wanted Greenland. Lots of space, very few people.

 

In 5-10 years time people will have forgotten about this policy.

In 5-10 years a new generation of people will be introduced to politics. A birthright citizenship debate will erupt and people will be like 'Military members newborn children, as long at they are naturalized citizens, don't even get immediate citizenship SO WHY in the he/ll would someone flying in from China to have a baby be allowed to get citizenship?"

Others will chime in 'You know what? You're right!'

^^ THIS is where it's going. That's my opinion as to why.

little by little. It's how things work and why so many are against any anti-gun legislation in the slightest bit among other things.

 

Nobody doubted they could still apply. The issue is the need to apply, and if your patent doesn't apply on your behalf, you are ****ed.

 

Parent better apply then. They have 18 years to do it.

 

The entire point is just to create another checkpoint for denying citizenship to brown people. Of course you can still apply. Let’s see what the demographics look like after a few years of this policy. Would love to see.

 

His American parent abandoned him in South Korea so I don't see that happening...

 

Then he is South Korean. Probably better for the kid tbh as he hasn't assimilated into American culture, he is fully assimilated into South Korea. K-pop 4 lyfe.

 

I mean you have Trump in his own words ...”We are full.” It’s a philosophy of zero thought that the old F$&@s that voted for Trump think they belong to some elite club called Murrica, and they want to live pissed off and isolated to soak in their grievances nightly with their buddy’s on FoxNews who tell them they are the real Americans.

The admin knows these old geezers and wants to show them they are closing it down (acceptance to the club) and create checkpoint after checkout to deny America the humans needed to keep our consumer based economy afloat.

 

He's actually half-Filipino and half American speaks English and has his father's American name.

 

Reading up on this and seeing the exemptions, basically it look alike they’re trying to stop the following:
- Situations where service members go overseas, find a local girlfriend while there, have a baby, and the baby be granted auto-citizenship because of the service member even if the service member doesn’t want to support the child.
- Situations where the service member marries that person, has the baby overseas, the family comes to the US, and is then divorced now that the child has citizenship and the mother/father can stay in the states with that baby if the service member parent doesn’t want to claim or support the baby.

If the service member wants to support the child, they are exempt and will get citizenship. If both parents are US citizens, they are exempt. If the baby is born in the US, the child is a citizen. This really does probably affect less than 100 people a year.

The only negative that I can see from this is that service members can go overseas, have kids with a local, claim they don’t want to support the baby, and won’t be held accountable. This happens a lot anyway, as most of the locals aren’t able to make a claim anyway, but, in the few cases where they are, it won’t matter now.

 

edit: delete. not going to bother.

 

Well, I'm not commenting on the misleading news bit of this topic, just the policy bit.

I get that he wants to change immigration little by little but does this really help him optic wise? Especially if it affects less than a 100 people a year.

It seems like bad politics, especially since the target is people that serve the country, even if it is a little thing you can see it is already making headlines and its something that can be changed by the next president so its...I dunno, I don't think it's good politics and it's another bullet point that democrats can add to the "He doesn't respect the military" talking point.

With the Democrats, the changes they propose to gun reform are big and affect a lot more people. I feel like this is being done because, just like the wall and how he's trying to rush it, he knows he has to do as much as he can about immigration before Nov 2020 or else he's probably losing some of his base and he can absolutely not afford to lose loyalty within his base.

 

Because quite a few members of our mens soccer team were children of American service men stationed in Europe and they stayed there (usually the father goes back to the States) and develop into great soccer players in those soccer cultures...

 

I wondered the same thing

They seem to absolutely hate the troops most times

Rocket River

 

So this ****s over (mostly) mothers in other countries...when it's not even of epidemic portion. Sounds shitty, and an odd thing to be focused on. If (in most cases I'm guessing) a man gets a foreign girl pregnant, the child should have the right to be a US citizen, and the mother should have the right to child support as well.

 

I am sure there is a way but it's hoops for people. Unneeded and punishing citizens is not cool. If the child has a US parent, then they have every right to it. Way more than people who cross illegally and squeeze out a baby like making a touchdown or something. I imagine this may also create problems where a child may be entangled in the laws of the country where they are born now.