1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Chick-Fil-A partners with anti-gay group

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SunsRocketsfan, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. rtsy

    rtsy Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2010
    Messages:
    979
    Likes Received:
    50
    We should like totally get rid of the federal government defining religious institutions. Marriage should be privatized. No personal relationship should require licensing from the state with the government dictating the terms of the most intimate of personal unions. That's about as conservative as it gets.
     
  2. twhy77

    twhy77 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2002
    Messages:
    4,041
    Likes Received:
    73

    I was more commenting on his general get rid of government mantra. It might be the answer to just stop supporting it, but I think government can support traditional marriage and not be discriminatory. That should be the goal at least.
     
  3. LScolaDominates

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,834
    Likes Received:
    81
    Translation: I am a theocratic fascist, and my definitions of tradition and culture should be institutionalized and enforced by government.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,814
    Likes Received:
    20,474
    That would involve obvious and documented health risks. Monogamous two person relationships of either men, women or one of each don't pose the same health risks.
     
  5. Ender120

    Ender120 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,774
    Likes Received:
    171
    Thank you. I thought the same thing as I was writing, and I decided to just go with it.
     
  6. ChrisP

    ChrisP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 1999
    Messages:
    852
    Likes Received:
    125
    Not exactly, but it's pretty damn close. Not to mention that the people doing one are generally doing the other as well.

    Yes, it is. According to your position, my wife and I should not be allowed to be married. We have no intention of having children - that's a choice we've made. If you choose to exclude by one criteria, you must by all - otherwise you are exposing your intolerance for just one group.

    How can you assume that gay marriage will increase the divorce rate? My wife and I are happily married for 11 years and both feel very strongly that giving up on each other is not an option. Not contributing to the divorce rate, but we still don't fit your definition of marriage. Again, just comes off as intolerance.

    Not trying to pick on you twhy. I just feel very strongly that in a free society, unnecessary restrictions on that freedom should not be acceptable. This type of restriction is not necessary. It doesn't accomplish anything.

    Anyway, on topic (sort of)... Chick-Fil-A can do whatever they want. They run the risk of hurting their business by taking a polarizing position, but clearly they don't care about that. Food is not that good anyway, IMO.
     
    1 person likes this.
  7. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,542
    Likes Received:
    7,752
    As long as Chick-Fil-A doesn't turn into the fourth reich and start murdering homosexuals. I'm fine with them believing what they want to believe...
     
  8. subtomic

    subtomic Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2000
    Messages:
    4,255
    Likes Received:
    2,821
    If you allow gay marriage, there's obviously going to be more divorces than before. But I think it's a stretch to argue that gay marriage will somehow make the divorce rate (which I would define as the number of marriages that ultimately result in divorce). You would have to demonstrate that 2 gay persons of the same sex who marry are more disposed to divorce than 2 people of the opposite sex who marry.

    It seems to me the ultimate question is "what is the reason(s) for government to grant special privileges to marriage in today's society." The answer to that question should determine not just whether to allow gay marriages, but whether the government should offer all the benefits (tax breaks, automatic legal rights, etc) to married people. If our politicians were disposed to actually debate this question, it could be very interesting (as much for what we'd learn about all marriage - not just gay marriage).
     
  9. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    21,123
    Likes Received:
    22,594
    Why is the divorce rate so important to you? If you want a divorce, you want a divorce.

    These are consenting adults, they can make their own decisions. The last thing you want is for two people to WANT to divorce but have social pressure keeping them together.

    I know this because that is exactly what happens in the UAE, and the greater Middle East, and divorce rates are just as high here as they are there.

    There is one thing that is causing the divorce rate to be high. Have a look at the countries with the highest divorce rates and you will know what it is.

    Hint: have a look at how many of the countries in the top 10-15 have a strict outright 'ban' on homosexuals.
     
  10. ChrisP

    ChrisP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 1999
    Messages:
    852
    Likes Received:
    125
    ^ I meant to make this same point too. I'm sure everyone would like the divorce rate to be lower - for people to take marriage more seriously. But, ultimately, whether someone gets divorced or not should not be a concern for society as a whole. Getting married and getting divorced are very personal decisions.

    twhy, I know I said I was not trying to pick on you, but I want to ask you straight up since you seem to feel very strongly about this. Given that there is a large portion of our society that would like to expand the definition of marriage, why shouldn't we? Things change, so what is the point of preserving the "traditional" definition of marriage? What difference does it make to society?
     
  11. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    48,993
    Likes Received:
    19,938
    If you subscribe to an Abrahamic faith, it's a pretty safe bet you will eventually be aligned with/in support of an anti-gay group somehow, either knowingly or unknowingly.

    But damn that's some good chicken.
     

Share This Page