Undoubtedly Tmac is a great talent, but lets think about the future. Will rox be able to endure two more years after this one of Tmac getting hurt and missing games? How will we get any free agents with his ballooning contract? The Tmac Yao thing aint working.
This was a dumb story by a Chicago guy. I don't believe it at all. It is like the rumor to trade Tmac with Kobe, which was spreaded intentionally by the lakers. It only showed how desperate Chicago was. I will only trade Tmac for a equal talent, not two mediocre players.
I know we desperately need a PG, but i won't give up T-mac for Hinrich and Nocioni. I want to see Ben Gordon as part of the deal. Maybe BG, Nocioni, Duhon and Joe Smith for T-Mac. I am not really pumped about Hinrich dressing up for us.
Has anyone brought up the fact that it would be completely impossible to get both Hinrich and Nocioni, because they are both BYC1.
It may sound crazy, but Ben Wallace and Ben Gordon + #1 pick this year for Tmac and Head. Ben can play both Center and PF and plays Defense. In the west, imagine throwing Chuck Hayes and then Ben Wallace at those elite PF... Deke is retiring, so Rox dont need to worry about getting a back up center...also, it lets Yao rest. Ben Gordon takes it to the hole relentlessly. He isnt as talented as Tmac, but he has some serious heart. Plus a number one pick as the Bulls might be missing playoffs this year. This all depends on if Tmac seriously wants out, still just a rumor. The injury thing with Tmac really worries me.
It's going to be some ride. Tmac gives me the impression that he believes that he doesn't really fit in with what RA is trying to do on offense. At the start of this season, I noticed that whenever he had the ball in his hands, he prefered to walk it up the court so he can see what's happening and then decide what he wants to do rather than pushing it up the court the way RA wants because he's more comfortable doing things that way. I also noticed that the offense tends to stagnate when this happens which I believe was one of your major criticisms of JVG's system. That's why the offense currently looks a lot better with Brooks handling the point because he, Alston & Head really work to move the ball up court which helps the others get easier shots. Doing it Tmac's way meant you were going against a more a entrenched defense. This is why I was so amused at all of the folks calling Adelman an idiot when things were going bad because I didn't see the problem lying with his system or coaching strategy but rather with his players not buying into what he wanted them to do. And since MeMac is one of the big two, his resistance to RA's system had profound repercussions. As for that Smith article, it's less than worthless because with his Bulls currently in the crapper, he's merely throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks.
i want in on trade opinions: ASSUMING we trade with them i'd like tmac for deng,gordon,and someone else. we do not need heinrich. we already got like 4 pgs already and brooks is ballin.
The fact that this thread and so many others even exist is a big knock on McGrady. The posters on this board as a whole are NOT idiots. They have spent incalculable hours watching T-Mac and the Rockets, and they want the Rockets to win, and a whole bunch of these people are NOT overwhelmed by T-Mac's indispensability. Are Phoenix fans debating trading Nash? Do Laker fans think Kobe must go? Did T-wolves fans want Garnett to go? Do Spurs fans debate trading Duncan? Dwight Howard? Dwyane Wade? LeBron James? Melo? Nope. Either ClutchFans posters are uniquely stupid, or T-Mac SOMEHOW cannot get the respect he deserves, while Dirk and all the other "superstars" bask in their appropriate glory.
man, seriously is time to trade T-MAC he's not a winner ... he's the softest superstar in the NBA we need to try something diff IS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is better to TRADE TMAC now and get some values back than go nowhere in the next 2yrs and get nothing for him
This really doesn't look good when you factor in the he-said/he-said going on right now with T-Mac's injuries. There's been a consistent pattern over the last couple of weeks where the Rockets downplay T-Mac's injuries and he insists they're more serious. If the rumor's true then the injuries aren't T-Mac's way of blocking a trade but rather forcing one. As for Chicago, Deng looks really good but I understand that the Bulls wants to hang onto him badly. I think Gordan and Nocioni look pretty good too.
what the rockets need most in a trade with chicago is deng. so long as we get deng, i'd do the deal immediately. i mean, hinrich is nice and all, but deng would help this team the most. i say no to ben gordon, in any scenario.
im only quoting you because i just read 8 pages and it was mentioned very early that almost any trade involving T-Mac and the Bulls is unlikely (unless Ben Wallace is involved), because they don't work cap-wise. It doesn't matter what combination you use. Even Kirk, Gordon, Deng and Joe Smith (Chicago's next highest non BYC player other than Ben Wallace) for McGrady doesn't work. Translation, unless the Rockets (or some other team via 3 way trade) is willing to take on Ben Wallace's contract, a trade with Chicago isn't happening. I think Morey might consider it, but only if it was way too sweet of a deal.
The thing is that bringing the ball up should NOT be one of T-Mac's responsibilities, and Adelman said from the beginning he wanted to take that responsibility off his shoulders. Only when Steve was starting PG was T-Mac forced to bring the ball up the floor. He, as you know, is MUCH better finishing plays off than creating them, and he has made this known since the offseason.
Are Phoenix fans debating trading Nash? Best point Guard in the League Do Laker fans think Kobe must go? 81 pts nuff said Did T-wolves fans want Garnett to go? NBA leader in pts and rebounds combined Do Spurs fans debate trading Duncan? Rings nuff said Dwight Howard? Oh there are debates as to trade him. Dwyane Wade? Ring LeBron James? Reincarnation of Michael Jordan and Olympic Team Member Melo? Olympic Team Member and leading scorer of the Nuggets What has Tracy done? Doesn't lead the league in anything. Isn't quite Kobe material. Blew off the Olympic team because he said he was concerned about the pollution and terrorism. Talked about blowing off the NBA All-Star Game cause he was afraid about security and violence. Statements about "It's on Me" and failing to deliver. Sure he puts up great numbers but this guy is about the biggest baby on the planet. He is one spoiled NBA brat and I cannot for the life of me figure out what makes this guy tick.
Tracy plays hard when he wants to but he epitomizes soft. Why do I say this? Check my previous post. It has less to do with his basketball talent than his mental health. If T-Mac's head was in the right place you wouldn't hear him talking about retiring from the game of basketball when he is at the height of his physical capabilities.
Gordon, Hinrich, Thomas and Sefolosha for Mac and Head works. ESPN Trade Machine To make it better for Houston you could even add in a swap of Mike James and Joe Smith.
