1) Rick never won a championship 2) This was during the Lakers (and Kings) Heyday in 2000~2001. NBA is much deeper nowdays. You need more than one star. You may need three stars.
So what do you do then,Do you wait another 2 years to see if T-mac is going to finally wakeup and be this player that everybody wishes he can be.What do you do is the question. Do you fire a coach every other year,I mean T-mac has been featured here for 4 going on 5 seasons without advancing past the first round. WHAT'S THE PLAN
he's damaged goods^^^, in this league, the top blow to a guy's trade value is that he's never healthy. I don't believe we will get a great package for him. We will be lucky if he doesn't decide to come otu in public and say he wants to be traded, which also kills a player's trade value. Look at Vince Carter>>>Injured AND doesn't want to be on the team, the Nets traded tard for him.
Rick has advanced past the fist round,Rick didn't win a championship because of michael jordan one year and Isiah thomas another year.
Did you even click on the link referring to the contract? I think not. It isn't Wikipedia. It's from a Chicago Sun-Times article referenced on BNET.com. Oh, and Rafer is a good back-up point, playing over his head, IMO. Heinrich is the real deal. No way I'd trade McGrady just to get Heinrich, but Heinrich-plus, and picks? I'd think about it. What you apparently missed is that I think there's nothing to it. Look at the source. Want another source for Heinrich's contract? Check Patricia Bender's site. You should have it bookmarked, anyway. http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/contracts It is so frustrating to post in GARM, far too often. People tend to read what they want to take from a post, instead of actually reading what the author has written. You should try it.
I'm not saying that I have the answer. I just know that two role players on an 11-17 team in the east isn't going to get us past the first round either. In fact it probably puts us in the lottery. If Tmac is healthy, Deng plus Heinrich for Tmac improves the Bulls for this season and may not improve us this year... But Deng has enough potential that I would consider that trade. Otherwise I don't know who would want TMac that could give us good value. Other lottery teams aren't going to build around him. Other teams ahead of us in the standings are not going to give us franchise players for him. So the biggest question is who outside of Chicago could give us good value for Tmac if we were to trade him? But I would risk another few years of seeing if Tmac pans out over trading him for 2 role players on an team that is under performing even more than our team is.
For the trade to succedd it will have to include ben gordon. Hinrich/Brooks/Alston Gordon/James/Bonzi Nocioni/Battier/Bonzi Scola/Hayes Yao/Deke For me that is a great team and i´m sure you can make this team work like Detroit, who has only one star (Wallace) and a very good supporting cast. I think Nocioni has potential to put up Deng numbers and Gordon is a 20ppg on any given night, plus Hinrich will help us on the PG position a lot because of the importance of that position in the west.
I don't think we know. I think he knows he didn't have the talent around him to win and that he tried to carry the team on his back but it doesn't work. He's frustrated about not winning - which usually means the guy wants to win badly. He's been surrounded by one good play for four years and nothing else. Now, he's injured, and I am sure he's unhappy being injured and his team is .500. But if they start playing well and winning games, do you think he will be upset????? Of course not - that's going to motivate him because he's going to realize - wait, maybe we can win a ring....maybe the team is good. A good team won't be 11-40 or whatever without their star player. T-mac has carried this team on his back for years. Trade him away, and goodbye Rockets. You can kiss Yao Ming away too because he's not going win a ring if t-mac leaves. Because once t-mac is gone, you're never going to get a great pick in the draft and we'll be doomed to medicrity even more so then now.
LOL! That's what Sam Smith writes in the beginning of his column. So, this T-Mac trade is actually Sam Smith's fantasy trade - no source or whatsoever. Sam Smith just makes up some reasons with news around the NBA to make these fantasy trades look credible.
They have played together for 4 years and haven't even made the 2nd round,T-mac is getting older,How will they make to the championship when their track record together for 4 years has been first round and out. How do they leap frog, with both of them being older with a new coach. What do they do now,Fire adelman and bring in another new coach. This is a cricial point for these two players.
They may be, but they are not Kobe, Duncan, nor Wade type of stars, they are the type of players Hinrich, Nocioni, Gordon, or Scola, or Brooks may be. Solid reliable players I call it. I also think that by names Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are not stars, but is my thinking, you may say they are, there is no right or wrong in here.
Not that I am for trading TMAC.... But when will people here realize, that when a team trades TMAC we will get new players in exchange. We will not have the same team sans TMAC if there is a trade. The idea would be to trade TMAC and replace him with players that would strengthen areas of weakness that we have now that cause us to lose so many games when he is out. Even some of the trades here make us a stronger team... Nocioni and Hinrich alone would strength the SF spot and the PG spot by far. Now the weakness at SG would be great, but if you could get Gordon, it wouldn't be sooo bad.
I have to say the deal is fair enough, considered the health condition and attitude T-MAC's had in the past 2 years
Nope. He is quite touchable. At the end of this year Deng is an unrestricted free agent so we must be careful in that trade.
I was referring to this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Hinrich that is in your post. Like I said adding a wikipedia link doesn't add much to an arguement's credibility since anyone can write anything they want in a wikipedia. I don't know why you would consider your link any more credible than mine... Especially since the link you have there specifically says at the top But to double check my numbers, both http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm and http://www.insidehoops.com/nbasalaries.shtml list Hinrich at $11 million for this year. Besides what does that mean that Heinrich is the "real deal"? You think he is an all star? Personally I consider him a good to average player, of which there are tons in the league. This season he is underperforming on a team that has a worse record than the Rockets after playing a weaker schedule and having less significant injuries in a weaker conference. The one thing I agree with you on is that the trade rumor is likely false.
If you check out that Hoopshype link you will notice that instead of the usual annual raise, his contract value decreases each year ending at a vlaue of 8 mill.
What? You are comparing Hinrich, Nocioni, Gordon, Scola, and Brooks to Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton?????? Oh man. I can't continue. I feel like I'm talking to an english major about advance chemistry.
