I would make a trade for them. nocioni is ****in better than ginobli and dont get credit cus bulls dont use him right. and i kno hinrichs shooting crappy cus the bulls suck.they would kick ass here.
the more i think about it, the more i want mcgrady off the team. if we can get a really good player in return, even though it isn't exactly equal value, i would do it.
Nocioni is the bad boy of the Bulls. He's got the reputation as one of the dirtiest players in the NBA. Heck ya, Lets get him! We need an enforcer.
Alright Mango. You've accepted the gauntlet. Now, let's see it done. http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/1/
The trick is to have so much salary in the trade that the BYC calculation becomes irrelevant. Over the years, it has been used from time to time when teams are determined to make a trade. Whether the trade makes sense on a basketball basis is another question. Tracy McGrady Shane Battier Mike James Rafer Alston Luther Head Steve Novak Kirk Hinrich Andres Nocioni Joe Smith Ben Gordon Chris Duhon Joakim Noah Viktor Khryapa Thabo Sefolosha The Trade
I like Nocioni but he's basically the same player Scola is. If a deal were to go down we need Deng or Gordon plus more than likely Hinrich. Big Bad Ben is to offensively challenged and with Chuck Hayes you may have a younger version of Ben already on your team. If you give up Mac you lose his play making and scoring ability and we'd better get plenty of scoring and play making back or we could end up with a weaker roster.
Congratulations on a successful trade. Due to Houston and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Change in Team Outlook: -22.8 ppg, -4.7 rpg, and -5.1 apg. Outgoing Players Tracy McGrady 6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS) 22.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 5.1 apg in 35.2 minutes Chicago Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -19.6 ppg, -9.7 rpg, and -2.5 apg. Outgoing Players Tyrus Thomas 6-8 PF from LSU 6.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg in 17.6 minutes Andres Nocioni 6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign) 13.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.3 apg in 25.0 minutes Atlanta Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -17.1 ppg, -8.1 rpg, and -3.5 apg. Outgoing Players Josh Smith 6-9 SF from Oak Hill Academy (HS) 17.1 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 3.5 apg in 35.3 minutes Speedy Claxton 5-11 PG from Hofstra No games yet played in 2007/08
Race card? Fine...sub the CBA with the Euro League - same thing. Any other league besides the NBA. The idea of being this loyal servant and worshiping the team doctrine without question is not part of American culture - it's not expected of athletes here. It's not a big deal if an injured player doesn't sit on the bench. I don't understand why that's so hard to understand!
So who gets who? No way Atlanta gives up Josh Smith, Speedy Claxton is injured, Tyrus Thomas is garbage, Nocioni is not a deal breaker.
I was looking at 82games and the numbers didn't look that great with ol' T-Mac. I'm not going to spend the time to totally synthesize these things, but some scraps: The Rockets are -4.7 points/100 possessions with T-Mac ON the court this season. The Rockets are 11-14 (44%) with T-Mac playing this season. They're 15-15 (50%) with Yao. 2006-07 with Yao, Rox 35-12 (75%) with T-Mac Rox 48-21 (70%) 2005-06 with Yao 29-27 (52%) with T-Mac 25-19 (57%) 2004-05 with Yao 45-31 (57%) with T-Mac 48-25 (66%) if you wanted to look for a trend comparing Yao and Tracy, it would go like this: W/L % Differential 2004-05 T-Mac +9% (over Yao) 2005-06 T-Mac +5% 2006-07 T-Mac -5% 2007-08 T-Mac -6% Now everyone will pull out that old "Rockets without McGrady" stat. I'm more interested in the Rockets WITH McGrady, since he is on our roster. The Rox WITHOUT McGrady/Yao stat applies only to the Rox without a full roster. it's fun to use when McGrady is (frequently) out and the Rox bench is not full, but it only applies to a 14-man roster. T-Mac has shot about 78% jump shots in his career as a Rocket. He shoots 37% of his shots in the first 10 seconds of the clock (as a Rocket). These last two stats are very consistent throughout T-Mac's career as a Rocket. I don't think we're going to see T-Mac change his game much, so a lot of times when he's shooting, he is not going to be giving much time to let Adelman's offense go to work.
I agree I think we have the talent but i believe the rotation is the problem look at the starting 5. You have two guys in McGrady and Yao that can shoot and defend (McGrady *selective D usually when he knows he can dominate his man happens 1 or twice a game) stay with me on this. Hayes plays great D but no offense Layup forget it 40-60 chance point blank and those are good odds. Battier great defender doesn't want to shoot unless forced to shoot when he does it is usually hurry up 3. Rapher great at pushing up the ball getting the interior pass to Yao, defense is average but his offense and shot selection is horrible three point shot is hit or miss and the tear drop layup........please. Adelman need to get better balance in his team if it was me I would start Yao/Scola/T-Mac/Head/Rapher and my bench would be Hayes/Bonzi/Battier/James/Brooks and even incorporate Landry in the mix. I love the rockets consider myself a true fan but if i had to make a trade it would be to detroit and it would be t-mac for maxiel and hamilton. i would pay for the flight to ship his ass there. I'm fat and a good 350 and can ball defense and offense with the best of them. Extremely light on my feet can shoot outside at least 25ft i could sign a 10 day?
They are 2-3 without Mac, and 2-7 when Mac doesn't play or leaves game sometime through. By my math that means they are 5 games above .500 in those circumstances. Remember that the team played 32 games without Yao as opposed to 10 games without Mac, so of course the winning % is gonna be lower for Mac as he had to carry a Yao-less team for 32 games while Yao was only the sole leader for 6.5 games.
Why would T-mac want to go to the worst team in the East? This is just a Chicago reporter grasping at straws.
Why do you want to measure a guy's play by looking at when he's NOT playing? Why do you want to evaluate the Rox according to how they play when they have a short bench? Try looking at how they play with a FULL bench. Try looking at how a guy plays when he is ON THE COURT, not sitting at home. It's like trying to put together a hockey team by saying "OK how do we perform when the other team has a power play?" Or soccer: "Who's the guy who hurts us most when he gets a red card and we have to play 10-11?" What an a$$-backward way to look at players. "How important is he when he's NOT on the court?" What I'm saying is, when people talk about trading T-Mac, the "without T-Mac stat" doesn't apply because it assumes you have a guy missing, which you won't if you trade T-Mac for another guy.
Trade his ass look what they got for Garnett he still young. It looks to me like he doesn't want to play with Yao like there is somthing between them now. I think the one guy had it right earlier he wants to be the superstar with all of the hype and all of the glory and the fact is that Yao is the guy too and he doesn't want to share that with him. Thats why he settles for the earlier jumper and doesn't use the pick and roll like he should with Yao. Man look just look at what Boozer and Williams do with the pick and roll. Why don't they preach this! Yao is the biggest pick in the freaking league and you are the "superstar 2 guard" pick and roll.....pick and fade.....with Yao he has such advantages that other two guards don't have and he doesn't use them. I.E. vince/wade/lebron/kobi/allen/ but don't we consider him as good as these guys when he's on? Thats what he thinks????????
