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Chicago as a "you know who" destination...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tom Bombadillo, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. RV6

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    Because there isn't a lot of time left. This tmac deal may not get done for a few weeks, then he'd be pressed to get other deals prior to the trade deadline. If he cant get anything then he ends up with nothing under contract for next year. He'd have to know ahead of time of a team willing to deal for a smaller contract before he'd pull the trigger wit chicago. So maybe he would, but i think he'd rather get it done in one move.
     
  2. bfurlough

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    Just was playing with trade machine like everyone has and came up with these scenarios:

    Rox/Chi

    Rox trade Ariza, T-mac, Anderson for Tyrus Thomas, Luol Deng, Brad Miller

    Rox trade Ariza, T-mac, Scola for Tyrus Thomas Luol Deng Brad Miller

    Rox Trade Ariza, T-mac for Tyrus Thomas Luol Deng Brad Miller.


    Morey did say he wouldn't mind taking an up and coming player with a long contract. I figure if they gambled on Ariza they can gamble on Deng. Both are the same age. Just a thought
     
  3. DaDakota

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    How is that different than not trading him at all? And this year we get a lot better in that we address our needs for a high post passing center in Miller, a better wing scorer than Battriza and a big stiff to get fouls against teams with a center.

    DD
     
  4. RV6

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    Because morey's preferences, i believe, in order were:

    1. Get tmac back healthy and re-sign
    2. Trade tmac during season for expirings and young'ns
    3. Let him expire

    He doesnt really want to just let him walk off because it would be harder to do something that way, it would be his last option/choice, so yes gettingback 3 smaller contracts so close to the trade deadline may leave him in that position anyway. Im not saying he won't go for the 3 smaller cocntracts, i just dont think it's likely unless he's got something else already lined up. Also, when you get close to the deadline all these rumors, some legit, come up. More teams call, more panic, more have a quicker trigger finger. That's why i think he's likely to jut wait it out in hopes that any deal he's getting now will still be there then, but maybe once it gets down to crunch time he'll be able to bamboozle another team. So if he waits until then he wont have time to flip another 3 contracts.
     
  5. kokopuffs

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    pretty sure chicago would not want lord voldemort on their team.
     
  6. trueroxfan

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    i wish people would get it right, mcgrady did not leave the team, he was told to leave, all the articles make it seem like mcgrady is demanding things, all of his statements have come from specific questions, he has been saying he understands what they are doing and although he wants a bigger role and more minutes to get acclimated to playing at the nba level again, he is still willing to do what his coaches and dm tell him.

    this situation has been poorly handled by houston, they should have told mcgrady from the beginning that he would have to be near full recovery so that he can make an instant impact in the game. i want to see mcgrady somewhere, but at least he has returned to chicago and will only get stronger, hopefully if we don't find anything suitable we'll allow him to return later in the season although it would be even harder to insert him then than it is now.

    i realize we are balancing a very sensitive group that relies on hustle and heart to win, but in the nba you can't go anywhere without a player or players who can get it done when you need it despite the defense, right now we don't really have that (ab is the only one i trust with the ball at the end of games and he is 6 feet tall)

    but once again i beg the organization not to trade mcgrady if we don't absolutely gain from it
     
  7. steddinotayto

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  8. Tom Bombadillo

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    I am praying for Kevin Martin and either Emeka or David West from NO.



    I have a feeling that NO will dump one of those guys for an expiring contract. That is why we need to break up this 23 million into something smaller and easier to move...
     
  9. Seth

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    That's most likely to happen. If Morey asks for something else then Salmons would be included in place of TT or JJ. And we could include Brian Cook to play 1 less Million in luxury tax.
     
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    That would be great. Maybe we could spin an expiring into another player too...
     
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    Four hours later, still no lock, maybe there's some fire to go with this smoke?
     
  12. Egghead

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    he did lock the thread...Clutch merged the locked thread with this one
     
  13. Dave_78

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    McGrady was never that guy. Check his playoff record or do game sevens not count as "when you really need it?"

    Step out of your fantasy and into reality and then you might see that the organization did the right thing.
     
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    No Rox fan with sense is denying this.

    I'm pleasantly surprised with how well the Rox are doing so far this season but it's all bonus. Of course this team as it is right now is not a championship team and will be tremendously fortunate to get past the first round if it even makes the playoffs.

    I don't know who that "go-to" guy will be that DM will try and acquire to pair with Yao.

    I DO know that it AIN'T McGrady.

    I'd feel the same way about the necessity to jettison TM and his drama if this team were 13-19 or worse instead of 19-13.
     
  15. Rocket Addict

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    People keep saying if we did this that we could still try to move the smaller pieces before the deadline, but I don't think that is correct. Can someone please clarify this point? Don't you usually have to hold onto assets for about two months before trading them again?

    The only way I'd do this deal is if we could send Thomas and Salmons to SAC for Martin and Nocioni as part of a three-way trade. They reportedly want an athletic big man, but I don't have any idea if they like Thomas.

    If the Rockets could pull SAC players into the deal, Miller to Houston makes sense. Otherwise, no thank you.
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    the original thread that comment was in pertained to a report that a deal to CHicago was done, not rumored, not suggested....but done.

    since we merged it into this one pertaining to Chicago rumors, it really doesnt apply anymore.

    There is nothing concrete to any of this, just rumors and suggestions.
     
  17. BleedsRocketRed

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    Because unlike Tmac, all those players listed above can actually still play at a decent level. Tmac is finished this year as a Rocket
     
  18. Zfan

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    Probably Tmac failed physical test.
     
  19. noize

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    I can't wait for this trade to go down! Best for both team as we need younger, atheletic player and the Bulls needs a scorer/playmaker in T-mac. Salmon, here we come!
     
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    From Adelman's comments, I didn't get that McGrady was willing to do what was asked or that he was interested in fitting in.

    (could Tracy come back with the Rockets?): Today, I would seriously doubt that. He’s made it clear that he wants to move on and we’ll see what we can do.

    Whether Tracy could have helped us there, I would hope that maybe he could have with the talent he has but then there’s got to be an acceptance of how we’re going to play and how he was going to fit in with the group – at least this year.

    http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets_use_fantastic_finishin_2009_12_30.html
     

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