The problem with using morality to determine whether doing something is ok is that it is highly subjective. For example, I consider cheating between bf/gf to be morally acceptable but cheating between husband/wife to be morally unacceptable. Based on what I read so far, some posters on this thread has a different moral standard than I do. So to determine whether something is "ok" objectively in our society, we should look into the laws. The laws say it is ok to commit adultery, so it is ok. If you don't like it, you pass the necessary laws. Otherwise, move to an Islamic country.
1. Why do you think BF/GF is ok? 2. So anything not SPECIFICALLY covered by Laws. . . is ok? Rocket River
if i make you a promise...and i break it...and you were counting on me...yeah, don't expect society to pat that on the back as "ok." particularly when the promise centers around something important and even self-defining.
If it is really so important, why don't we pass laws to prosecute people for these promises? I think we need laws for "love fraud" just like we have laws for other frauds. Often times "love fraud" hurts way more than other types of frauds.
well, now we are back to the original post. The cheatee made no promise to anyone in described scenario...so your point here is off topic. <ul> <li>I do agree with ymc that it is a matter of morals and situations <li>I do agree that "cheating" in hs and college is irrelevant. <li>I have never cheated and never would. <li>I have been the "cheatee," but only with ex-girlfriends who could follow clearly defined rules (haha) <li>I have been an unknowing "cheatee," but moved on when i found out. <li>I have a no-dating for 6mos rule for any woman coming off a serious relationship...not just a no being the "cheatee" rule for woman currently in failing relationships. But that's not about morals, that's about not being the rebound guy. <li>I do know there are some married milfs in such boring, heartless marriages who resort to denying sex to their rich ******* husbands in order to get out of it, and wonder if they could actually pull off a harmless "Desparate Housewife" thing. Hey, even Carmela Soprano's priest almost made a move on her. hey, i'm just wondering. </ul>
From my point of view, bf/gf supposedly doesn't have as strong a commitment as marriage. Plus, there are no contracts between the two to punish broken promises. Marriage on the other hand does lawfully guarantee some sort of financial obligations to the parties involved. After all, it all depends on what it means by "ok". I guess the OP wanted to know if cheating is acceptable by the society. Since morality is subjective and laws are objective, only the latter is widely accepted by the society. Therefore we should use that to judge whether a certain action is "ok".
it says somethings about humanity . . . . that we are animals that can only be decent if we are threated by authority figures to control us .. . that is a bothersome ideal also If all decency is legislated 1. I can imagine how many different laws would be on the books 2. The minorities rights would be trampled 3. Sounds like a very repressive society Rocket River
Show me the post where Rocket River is not respecting the legal rights of others. Oh forgot it. but notice you've taken over this thread. it's called killing a thread. I think we should make a law about that.
Yeah, I won't oppsoe to making a law about that, too. Anyway, I think I made my points pretty clear. It might be a bit weird but I am sticking to it. For now, I should recuse myself out of respect to the OP until I have something more to add.
So, who is worse? Person A who cheats on his wife of 25 years? or Person B who drives 50 in a 45? Remember, one is against the law and one is not. Choose wisely.
I pretty much agree with this and with Fatty's caveat of not crossing swords with a buddy. I guess it is an important distinction to draw the line between mere cheating and adultery. I don't really have any qualms about hooking up with a girl who has a boyfriend and makes the choice to cheat on him, but I wouldn't want to get together with a married woman.
because we don't seek to over-criminalize. just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. i know, i know...there is no right thing to do. it's all subjective. how very post-modern.
If the Law is all that drives a person's morality that person would be a very very scary and ruthless person Rocket River
Hey you stole my argument about the war on drugs and abortion (if you include the problems of enforcement).