I did some research on my own and maybe you weren't exaggerating! LOL My apologies! Mmmmmmmmmmmmm limes
Believing that in the end they will "get theirs" for cheating is lying to yourself. A lot of people get very far in life and make a lot of money by cheating other people. If you are content with that, fine. I have no problem with people not wanting to turn in a cheater, but don't tell yourself you don't need to because they are only cheating themselves and it will come back to them eventually.
No, not everyone in grad school...I can only speak about dental school. Again, not lying here...but when there is a homework assignment, usually the first person that completes it sends it out in a mass email to everyone in the class. Now, if Im struggling with a few questions...do I not look at the answer when its sitting in my inbox? Do I spend 3 hours on my own trying to figure it out when I have a gross anatomy exam the next morning at 8am? When something is sent out mass email, its safe to say that every member of the class would be accused of cheating. But, thats how it is...when you have so many classes and so little time...just sayin.
Maybe I didn't phrase my question properly. What would I be lying to myself about? It's a decision I choose to take and I don't NEED to tell myself that it will come back to bite them if that's what I've believed since day one. There's nothing wrong in believing this.
If you are doing serious cheating you will eventually get caught. You can't game the system forever (school/work or whatever). Again, I'm talking about very high level cheating and for an extended amount of time.
Just so we are clear, this is the definition of Academic Dishonesty at UH which is very similar to other schools. “Academic dishonesty” means employing a method or technique or engaging in conduct in an academic endeavor that the student knows or should know is not permitted by the university or a course instructor to fulfill academic requirements. Academic dishonesty includes, but is not limited to, the following: a. Stealing, as theft of tests or grade books, from faculty offices or elsewhere; this includes the removal of items posted for use by the students. b. Using “crib notes,” as unauthorized use of notes or the like to aid in answering questions during an examination; c. Securing another to take a test in the student’s place; both the student taking the test for another and the student registered in the course are at fault; d. Representing as one’s own work the work of another without acknowledging the source (plagiarism). This would include submitting substantially identical laboratory reports or other materials in fulfillment of an assignment by two or more individuals, whether or not these used common data or other information, unless this has been specifically permitted by the instructor. e. Changing answers or grades on a test that has been returned to a student in an attempt to claim instructor error; f. Giving or receiving unauthorized aid during an examination, such as trading examinations, whispering answers, and passing notes, and using electronic devices to transmit or receive information. g. Openly cheating in an examination, as copying from another’s paper; h. Using another’s laboratory results as one’s own, whether with or without the permission of the owner; i. Falsifying results in laboratory experiments; j. Mutilating or stealing library materials; misshelving materials with the intent to reduce accessibility to other students; k. A student’s failing to report to the instructor or department chair an incident which the student believes to be a violation of the academic honesty policy; and l. Misrepresenting academic records or achievements as they pertain to course prerequisites or corequisites for the purpose of enrolling or remaining in a course for which one is not eligible. m. Possessing wireless electronic devices capable of transmitting and/or receiving wireless signals in an exam room unless expressly permitted by the instructor. Students seen with such devices will be charged with academic dishonesty. n. Any other conduct which a reasonable person in the same or similar circumstances would recognize as dishonest or improper in an academic setting.
I have never known that. Thanks for bringing this information here. Although I probably wouldn't change my opinion regarding this. At least now I know I am included in the "cheaters" category :grin:
Interesting. I wonder if that was added in there in the spirit of catching people who weren't reporting people because they didn't want their friends to get caught.. it seems ridiculous to target people who had nothing to do with the cheating aside from noticing that something may or may not have been going on. It'd be like saying it's illegal to walk around all day if you saw someone running out of a bank with a brown bag. You suspect he might have robbed the bank, but you didn't tell the police..arrest!
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a ***** about the rules? Mark it zero!
Focus on your own stuff. Cheaters get through schooling, but come out stupid. They may get a job because of their degrees, but will eventually be discovered as being stupid or being a cheater. Badness will occur for them eventually. Don't harm yourself.
or they might get a good job in the government, where doing a bad job gets you promoted! (i wink, but it's so true)
I didn't mean to run a Ponzi scheme, I just cheated on my Finance exams. I also cheated in my Business Ethics class so if I did cheat, I didn't know that was wrong.
That's true anywhere, though. At a lot of companies, the people who know how to "play the game" get the promotions. Apparently, it's an increasing issue at Microsoft if you hear the testimonials of laid off or retired employees.
no, it's different in the government. A lot of people who were typically fired in the private sector (or at the very least, demoted to the point that they would rather leave) are promoted to make them someone else's problem. What I'm talking about is not "playing the game".. it's sucking horribly at what you do. Federal employees just have it made I think..
So the people that are against cheating, were you Bush supporters? Everyone knows cheated his way into office...
