It is easier to mind your own business. But it was easier for them to cheat than to take the time to study. As a professor it is increasingly more and more difficult to catch cheaters. With cell phones, text messages, etc it i not longer an issue of catching someone with a crib sheet. In addition, I can accuse someone of cheating but their peers make the case against them. Your degree is tainted by those around you that cheat openly and get away with it. I would HOPE that when you go to work if you see someone cheating at work (i.e. breaking the law and taking advantage of their co-workers) that you would at least anonymously report it.
By the way Clutchfans, Pete Chilcutt is a gossipy male who constantly advertises the reps he gives out and has brown nosed his way out of obscurity. Very insecure character, not shocking that he finds cheating to be a "vital" tool in business school. Character is merely habitual action, not who you say you are.
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When have I advertised the reps I give out? I don't think I've ever but one or twice mentioned rep to anyone that I have given publicly. Get off your moral high and realize that the real skills that matter are your work skills, not your ability to memorize some definitions about globalization of the economy.
Exactly, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Everyone has taken shortcuts in life in some way or form. It’s not our job/place to police others, that’s why we have TA's and proctors. The people that cheat are already taking huge financial risks especially on the graduate level. Yeah that person could indirectly be screwing you over a little but do you want to play God and change the course of that person’s life? If their cheating is really that extreme then it will come back to hurt them eventually. I cheated a little my freshman/sophomore year in college but after that I stopped. I figured I was too deep into my education to risk getting kicked out and wasting thousands of dollars on school.
If you really worry about this kind of stuff, you aren't going to make it in the corporate world. The corporate world is about sharing ideas and teaming. Its about getting the most efficiency out of any work done. No point in reinventing the wheel.
I don't think these types of analogies clarify the situation that much. They certainly aren't apples to apples. In this given situation, as an example, it's impossible to tell what the cheater will become later in life, as that would be predicting the future. So while clearly in a doctor/patient situation, the patient wants the best doctor possible, regardless of potential past moral indiscretions (like wanting to be diagnosed by House, for example!), the point of an educational environment is to create those best doctors, and, at least theoretically, those who cheat should ultimately prove to be less qualified. Statistically, this might not be the case, but I don't know and can only infer it to have some validity. Moreover, the comparison implies that one person is good while the other is bad...so, of course you'd want to go to the good doctor who cheated as opposed to the bad doctor who didn't. In reality, even when talking about the best of the best, that still is usually a group of people. In your example, if I need some kind of surgery and have a choice between 2 of the best doctors out there and all else being equal, one is a cheater and one isn't, then you go with the one who didn't cheat in his past, as you'd hope they wouldn't cheat on your surgery. To bring it closer to home a bit, it's like choosing between Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey, Jr. Bonds is the better overall player and career, but he's a cheating scumbag (to borrow someone's description), and I'd rather be a fan of Griffey, who worked hard, got injured as his body wore down (as happens to most people who don't cheat), but still had a hall of fame career and is 5th on the all-time HR list.
Stealing exams, plagiarism, cheat sheets in exams, and collaborating on projects when the professor said expressly WORK ALONE is not sharing.
This is a silly story though bro. How many doctors do you think are really not capable of passing med school without cheating?
The excuses being given in this thread are laughable. And proposing that you should do nothing when you catch a cheater is shameful.
Depends on the field, but at the graduate level it's awfully hard not to get exposed even if you are cheating in the classroom. You have to prove yourself in practice to graduate, and there's virtually no way to do that. Of course, I'm speaking from the science end, in which graduate work is 80% about apprenticeship. Evan
During undergrad, me and some friends cheated every now and then on exams, just to eek out an A instead of a B, or a B instead of a C. But, once the exam was over, we always made sure to go back and restudy the material so that we knew it for certain. I know that doesn't make my actions any better or justifiable, but it did allow me to pass my board exams, which proves that I attained the knowledge I was supposed to. If I had to go back and do it again though, I definitely would not cheat....but in such a stressful atmosphere, I can certainly understand why people would feel compelled to do so. Morally, there's no justification for cheating....it's obviously wrong, no matter what kind of spin you put on it. And honestly, if I had been caught by a student, and he turned me in.....I wouldn't have held it against him, since he was in the right, and I was clearly in the wrong.
Haha, didnt know that was directed towards me... Steroids directly enhances performance on the baseball field. Having a friend help you with a homework assignment in microbiology has no impact on how that student would perform in the operating room. Bring the heat, Ronald.
The point isnt that they arent capable...the point is that when people are working on an assignment openly, you tag along and do it as a group as opposed to individually. The feeling of "student vs faculty" is very evident in a rigorous curriculum such as medical school...Therefore, even though there is no need to cheat, its just easier to do a homework assignment with friends or classmates. No need to isolate yourself in that situation.
