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Cheating at the Graduate Level

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Air Langhi, Mar 11, 2010.

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  1. Bruce

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    The funniest thing is, at least one guy is doing the work and sending it out for the cheaters to copy. He was able to do it without cheating, why not our buddy rez.
     
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    Quite the contrary, I think you'd made every point you intended to make. Just nobody agrees.

    At this point, are you even disputing your lack of professional integrity, lack of common sense and arrogance?

    Maybe I don't understand how dental school is supposed to work (I'm looking at you BU) but some of the most important things about being a medical professional are his professionalism and ethics.
     
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    I know someone that is currently #1 in her class in dental school. She is married to the guy I roomed with in undergrad.

    I know she doesn't cheat and is the type that would definitely turn someone in for cheating. But we'd have no dentists if we stopped cheating!!
     
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    In all seriousness, I've said all that needs to be said. No one on this BBS is going out of their way to gain respect from a guy who's gone on and on with petty justifications in order to convince himself he has some worth. Whatever you gained in your education will become meaningless in the real world if you can't develop some street-smart savvy, know when to be discrete about things, and establish an inner confidence that allows you to build rapport with your clients. At the moment you're on your way to being a poor professional, IMO, and the only way you'll be able to stay afloat is by catering to a small ethnic niche market. Anyone who isn't naive will be able to sniff you out right away.

    And that's that. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors, and may the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on you.
     
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    That's really the issue with most. You know there are numerous individuals who have cheated in some way, shape or form that still take offense to your posts because you are indicating that it is acceptable on the premise of "everyone does it." I think what they are looking for is something like, "I've come to realize that what I've done is wrong...even though at the time I felt it was acceptable. The premise of doing it because everyone else was is never acceptable. The incident with the computer is particularly bad. There is no excuse for cheating at any level, regardless if 497 out of 498 students do it in a given class. I have learned my lesson and I intend to take a sincere look at all future incidents in my life when the opportunity to cheat might come up- taxes, etc. It will be sometimes difficult, but I do intend to make the right decisions as opposed to the easy ones. That way, I know they will never, ever come back to haunt me."

    But that would be my way of approaching it. About every few weeks or so, I deal with a client that wants to lie on their resume, and I either force them to be truthful on the resume (or leave off the information, like if they don't have a degree) or I reject the project. I keep record of these just out of curiosity, and I've lost over $12,000 worth of projects over the past 5 years because they insisted on fabricating the resume and I cancelled the sale- gave them their money back in full even if I did some work on the project. Now, for those who change information after I send a final draft, there's nothing I can do about that. But that's the fact. I was lucky in that I know of someone when I was in college (he was a senior, I was a sophomore) who cheated on his resume, got caught, and lost a job over it, so I figured, better to lose money than have it come back to haunt me that I was implicit in letting it happen.
     
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    At least you admit that were aren't smart enough to pass it without cheating
     
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    Is this you rezdawg?
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    My eyes are about the same size...but I have a bigger nose.
     
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    It has everything to do with ethics! Cheating on homework assignments is UNETHICAL.

    Also, lol @ this:

    What does that even mean? Here you go again, dismissing everyone who hasn't gone to dental or medical school.

    NOTHING TO SEE HERE, FOLKS. If you haven't been to dental/med school, GTFO out of this thread. You have no perspective. You don't know what it's like.

    You cheat to survive.

    Apparently every doctor/dentist needs one of those motivational posters with the above quote hung up in his/her office.

    You don't do it because you want to... You do it because you HAVE to. You do it for the greater good of your classmates.
     
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    My school doesn't have one.

    Deciding to cheat on a homework assignment is an ethical issue. That's plain and simple. If you've decided you can live with it, fine. But to presume that because other people do it makes cheating not an ethical issue, that's preposterous.
     
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    Rez, dude...

    I did post a lot of questions, a lot of observations.

    But let me sum it up.

    You're unethical, man. Just own it and move on. That's all. Own up to it and move on. Stop defending it. Realize that professional integrity is not a part of your motivational makeup and step on forward back into your life after an incident that....you.....

    ....learned absolutely nothing from.

    Also - Ronny....

    Don't tell him you're not right handed....
     
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    I know these Indian guys at UH and they are the biggest cheaters I have ever met.

    I hope the best for them.
     
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    Basically everybody cheats in one way or another.

    EDIT: The saying is actually if you aint cheating, you aint trying.
     
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