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Cheating at the Graduate Level

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Air Langhi, Mar 11, 2010.

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  1. pmac

    pmac Member

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    The sad thing is that cheating is so prevalent. My experience was that instead of adjusting to catch cheaters, professors adjusted their exams assuming everyone cheated.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    So you have no problem with the Steriod heads
    I mean
    EVERYONE ON THAT LEVEL WORKS HARD

    Rocket River
     
  3. Rocket River

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    I think Bonds/ Clements/ etc have been called worse

    Rocket River
     
  4. Mr. Brightside

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    I have no problem with any athlete using performance enhancing drugs. Basically athletes use substances till their respective governing body says its not ok to use. Its just a cat and mouse game. Every athlete takes cutting edge supplements and when the time ends for that supplement, they move on till the next one until that one is banned.

    If Barry Bonds was on the Astros, I'm sure you would be cheering for him.
     
  5. rezdawg

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    I was more talking about calling me lazy, or a scumbag, or a liar...When my job, on a daily basis, is to treat people, I think the name calling is a bit much.

    Bonds, Clemens, Marky Mark...those guys dont help people unless it has to do with their fantasy teams. They havent dedicated their lives to helping others.

    But yes, even with them, I think the name calling is too much. I dont have too much of an issue with the steroid problem in baseball because there were no rules against it...and the majority of the players did it. It was common practice. But, what I do have a problem with is when Clemens is sitting in a courtroom lying about it.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Is steroids in the 8th grade, 12th grade or college?
    When does it become . . like cheating on a Board?

    I not saying I am clean of cheating/stealing/listening to music downloads or what ever
    but
    I am not running around trying to justify it either

    Rocket River
     
  7. Rocket River

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    Cheating is cheating

    You basis is .. it is ok to cheat . .if there is not a rule against it.
    However, you seem to condone cheating in college. . where there is a rule against it. . . .

    I guess I am kind of a RIGHT and WRONG type of person

    If you do a 'victimless' crime .. .it is ok . . right?
    i.e. stealing from a store and no one is the wiser.
    It is no big deal

    Rocket River
     
  8. mic

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    You may not be inherently lazy, but I don't see how you can say that the act of cheating isn't lazy. It requires little to no effort on your part, which is why it's something that you participated in doing (so you could focus on other "more important" things).

    And I really find it difficult to believe that you would have taken a zero if all your classmates had done the same... Maybe you would, but saying that is completely hollow, because it would have never happened. There would be no reason to do so.

    As I stated before, the "scumbag" comment was one out of passion, and therefore on the extreme side (for someone not being offended by it, you sure do keep bringing it up a lot :) ); however, I do think cheating is a scummy thing to do, and I'm sick of the "You don't know what it's like :( " excuse.

    I guess there's only one thing that I can take away from all of this: It's nearly impossible not to cheat your way through homework assignments (at the very least) if you're in medical school.

    I find that pretty disheartening. I have nothing else to say, so I'm bowing out of this thread.
     
  9. alexcapone

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    Wow RR by the way you are blasting people in this thread I thought you might be the second coming of Jesus. I assume you've never watched a pirated movie, tried alcohol before the age of 21 or a cigarette before the age of 18, had a puff of a joint, never even endangered public safety by knowingly going over the speed limit!

    Seriously, you gotta get off your high horse just a little bit.
     
  10. alexcapone

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    Look its not a perfect analogy. Just trying to illustrate there are various degrees of cheating in academics like there are cheating in sports. Academic institutions acknowledge this based on the level of discipline they hand out to students for cheating. Usually cheating on a bs homework assignment would result in a 0 on the assignment whereas plagiarism on a thesis would result in getting kicked out of school. You are lumping all cheating as the same where its just not the case

    And I'm not justifying it as well but I'm not crucifying others for it either.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    I don't think i mention that the Good Dr should be stipped of his license.
    When something is wrong. . it is wrong.
    Being a little wrong is like being a little pregnant

    To say it is Wrong is not being on a high horse
    to say . . STONE HIM . . that might be a little different
    to say . . it was not really wrong because . .well . it was ME! . .that is a lil hypocritical.

    There is a reason to steal . .. . kids starving etc. . . but that does not make it any less wrong.

    Rocket River
     
  12. alexcapone

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    I just have a problem with lumping all moral transgressions on the same level. Obviously, speeding is wrong but would I put a habitual speeder in the same category as a two or three time DWI offender? No, because people that do the latter are ****ed up for doing it. That's where I feel like you're judging, by saying these people are the same when they are not.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    We all Judge.
    It is only when someone judges something as being 'bad'
    that people wanna talk about don't judge me or anyone.

    If I say YOU ARE A GOOD GUY
    no one says. . DON'T JUDGE ME!!

    Rocket River
     
  14. RedRedemption

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    Rat them out. The less competition, the better.
     
  15. alexcapone

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    Sorry, I was confused about what this point has to do with what we were discussing. When I said you were judging, I was implying that you were judging negatively. Of course, if you are judging someone in a positive light then it wouldn't matter. And to clarify, I don't think its a big deal if you are judging but I think that judgment should be fair and to say all wrong is equally bad is unfair. See the comparisons that I've made previously.

    Anyway, I think I've articulated my points enough for people to understand. Time to get out of this thread before it takes an ugly turn. Peace!
     
  16. Rocket River

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    agreed

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  17. rezdawg

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    I would like to be the first to congratulate the MFer that submitted my name and my posts to the dental school over in Boston. Got a message this morning on my phone from one of the head guys...WTF!!

    Anyone that knows anything about this...can my diploma be taken away?

    I cant believe I have to deal with this crap now. What a freakin D-bag move! :mad:
     
  18. Mr. Brightside

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    Damn, that's a scumbag move. On a positive note, the licensing and state medical boards usually always side with medical professionals. Just tell them they have no proof it was you posting, and I would look into suing the person who reported you for libel.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    Yeah, there is no proof, so Im thinking it should be okay...but damn, dealing with this is going to be a pain in the ass. Im almost too scared to even call them back today.
     
  20. rhino17

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    How did anyone get your name? And there is no way they can prove that you wrote any of those posts or that you did anything stated in the posts.
     
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