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Cheating at the Graduate Level

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Air Langhi, Mar 11, 2010.

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  1. rezdawg

    rezdawg Member

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    You just dont quite comprehend the situation...thats the problem here.

    When I have the answer sitting in my inbox, why would I not look at it when I know I have a 100% waiting for me...and I know that everyone else in my class is taking advantage of the same thing? When we all do it as a class, one person doesnt get the edge over another person. In other words, we all benefit from it and we all save some time to be able to study for something that is more important to our profession, such as head and neck anatomy. The time commitment during my first year of dental school was 8 am until midnight every single day of the week for the entire year (except the first month because they ease you into it). Its not an exaggeration when I say that I was at school 16 hours a day working on something. There are just so many hours of work someone can handle...and when you are in that situation with such time constraints, your opinion would change.
     
  2. rezdawg

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    I honestly think they know but they dont care because the homework assignments seem like more of a nuisance than anything else. The real learning comes from other avenues within the school system, such as lecture, lab, projects, etc...
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Judging by some of these ideals on cheating

    No one should be b*tching about ANY ATHLETE using Steriods

    a Performance enhancing drug is considered a short cut
    but
    a performance enhancing action via a cheating action . . is considered no big deal

    Cheating is Cheating
    If it is ok for you to cheat on tests to get as high a grade
    so you can get a GOOD JOB
    then
    IT is ok for an athlete to use Performance enhancing drugs
    so they can get a GOOD JOB

    It is ok steal . . because that is really a cheat
    rather than work and grow you own food or make you own money
    cheat and steal it. Con folx out of it. Bully folx out of it.

    Rocket River
     
  4. rezdawg

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    Not the same thing...cheating on a licensing exam or board exam would be equivalent to taking steroids because that is what directly impacts my ability to practice...or a lawyer that cheats on the bar exam.

    Cheating on homework has nothing to do with what job I will have when I get out. Ive never once been asked what my grades were in dental school...all that matters is that I have a degree, I have passed 2 board exams, and that I have the state license. For me, it doesnt matter if I get an A or a C as long as I learn the material and can provide the best care possible.
     
  5. pppbigppp

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    Oh so one shouldn't cheat on board exam?

    So what if someone figures out a way to cheat those? Will you snitch?
     
  6. mic

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    If you were never once asked what your grades were in dental school, THEN WHY DID YOU CHEAT? You're right. I just can't comprehend it, because it doesn't make sense. It is completely beyond my comprehension.

    I'm officially baffled.
     
  7. mic

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    You should have been a politician because you've mastered the art of talking in circles.
     
  8. rezdawg

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    a board exam qualifies you to practice dentistry on people...yes, I have major issues with cheating on that because if you can't pass the board exam, you are not qualified to work on someone. It's not possible to cheat on those exams, but if one did, I'd knock them the hell out.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    lol, the cheating wasn't to achieve a grade...it was to save time to be able to study for exams or work on any of the other 10 projects that were due...things that actually have an impact on my education.

    I'm not going around in circles...I'm just explaining the same thing to you over and over.
     
  10. mic

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    And yet earlier you were discussing percentages and why you wanted the 100% as opposed to the 50%...

    [​IMG]
     
  11. rezdawg

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    when the answer is there and every person is getting a 100, I'd prefer to perform the same as my classmates. If they all got half the answers, I'm fine with that as well. It's not the grade that matters, it's that we all put ourselves in the same boat...while saving time to do other things that are of higher importance.

    Comprendes?
     
  12. Air Langhi

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    Wow did not expect so many people to justify cheating.
     
  13. rezdawg

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    No, it's only me. I'm a ****ing scumbag.
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    There isn't a tooth fairy or Easter Bunny either.
     
  15. pppbigppp

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    Ha, so cheater apparently can indeed be scumbags, thought I would never hear that from you. Well, you know what is coming next, I am going to ask you to defend the hypocrisy in your stance :grin:

    Here is a fun one, if you or your buddy obtain the board exam in advance, would you look at it?

    I am convinced that your real motivation is 'cheating is fine as long as I can participate'. We can play this game all day until you are also convinced.

    Also, when your buddy stole the exam file from the prof, why didn't you share it with the class so everyone gets the same grade?
     
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    A utilitarian approach would be to look at the consequences and ask do the benefits outweigh getting caught? I say, hell no. I am talking about the real cheating that goes down, and professors know who the cheaters are. If your name keeps coming up then you will be brought down. If you keep knocking on the devil's door expect to get answer.

    All it (getting caught) takes is one time and your entire degree becomes more worthless.
     
  17. professorjay

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    I think I get it now. It depends on the situation. There's a proper time and place for everything, right?

    And that time is whenever rezdawg does it.

    Any other time - NOT OK.

    If you're ever in a situation when you're not sure if you should or not, just remember WWRD - What Would Rezdawg Do?
     
  18. Rocket River

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    Cheating on IN THE WEIGHT ROOM has nothing to do with what job I will have when I get out. Ive never once been asked what my BENCH was in HIGH school ... all that matters is that I have THE ABILITY TO SACK THE QB/ GET THE BALL OVER THE PLATE, HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK, I have passed THE COMBINES, A, AA, and AAA BALL, TRAINING CAMP and that I have the CONTRACT TO PLAY PRO BALL. For ME, it doesnt matter if I can BENCH 300 as long as I learn the POSITION and can provide the best PLAY ON THE FIELD.

    You are just justifying you position . . .there is LITTLE to NO DIFFERENCE
    The most major of differences is . .. THAT IS THEM and YOU ARE YOU

    You did what you did to have a good position

    Rocket River
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Ends justifies the means.
    Cheating to get to the point to take the boards. . . that is ok
    Cheating on the boards . .. that is NOT ok

    Rocket River
    just trying to keep track
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    Man, this thread has gone from serious to seriously funny.
     
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