So we give freedom while using their country and killing their people as a diversion so that we feel safe? We give freedom by drawing terrorists into a country so we can claim they are going there instead of here? You talk about going soft and crawling back in a hole and fetal positions, but it is you who are scared and you who would sacrifice others so that you may live without having to worry about things as scary as terrorists. Freedom is not free, but the epic battles for freedom aren't won on the battlefield, but in the minds of men. Your cowardice in accepting everything this administration has told you and your willingness to dump the last century of American effort, to forfeit what we have spent generations building, to cheer the fact that another country has been wrecked so you can falsely believe what you've been told... none of that is representative of the America I grew up in. No, I don't think I've given in to radical people... you on the other hand...
Not only can't anyone or UN say anything bad about about us, we (US) don't need the UN's permission to invade another country (i.e Iraq).
Are you speaking practically or do you think we aren't bound by any agreements that the U.S. has signed?
You should always bet against the masses. They are always late to the party and always wrong. If they are so unhappy with Bush, why were they so unhappy with Clinton, and then why were they so unhappy with Bush Sr., and then why were they so unhappy with Reagan, and then why were they so unhappy with Carter. And who could we elect that they would be happy with??????? The answer is NO ONE. Not unless we could resurrect Capone or Gotti and make them eligible to run for office. Bush is their devil. Devil simply means adversary. He is the greatest public devil to the preservation of their mafias. You want to see poor, opressed people? Just go to Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, and Syria.
LOL. Been to Syria and Venezuela. Venezuela - Chavez has been the best thing for the 'poor, oppressed people'. I was there before he took over...lets just say the people got what they wanted. Syria - Just go over there yourself; nobody there is oppressed...thing is most people over there dont care for the freedom that people in the U.S seek...different values...
Another Bush worshipping troll crawls out from under the Internet. Enjoy cleaning your guns and fighting the boogyman.
Your Venezuela example is a poor one. Under Chavez the standard of living for the poor has risen by 33%. I wasn't happy with Clinon, Bush Sr. or Reagan. None of them operated on the same scale of immorality, acting against the constitution etc.
Where have I said anything like that, you need to improve your reading comprehension skills. And that wasn't even my original point. Its like talking to a brick wall, 99% of your posts are from a random post generator made up of "Bush is evil", "No WDM in Iraq", "Ilegal war". Time for you to bring some new moves to the court.
Well, the Bush admin sure knows how to make friends: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060921/ts_nm/pakistan_usa_musharraf_dc They hate us for our freedoms obviously.
33% of nothing is still.....nothing. It's almost as bad as Haiti. And if you took away their oil, they would have less than Haiti.
There is a great article just recently in National Geographic that does a great job of proving you wrong, yet still points out Chavez's problems too. Chavez represents the weird combination of an elected socialist. That's a hard combination to concretely label good or bad, at least for me anyway.
yes but since it rose by 33% then it wasn't nothing. They have gotten more health care schools, services etc. than they ever had before. It was a poor example to use if you wanted to talk about oppressed poor. The poor in Venezuela were far more oppressed prior to Chavez than they have since he was elected the past several times.
Many many nations on this planet need a real re-distribution of wealth and power. At this pont Chavez is maybe the only democratically elected head of state actively engaged in a populist movement (Chile?) It's so hard for populist to get elected when face with the encumbancy, wealth and political savy of the Oligarchs, such revolutions usually happen with violence (France and the US for example) So I m willing to extend Chavez the benefit of the doubt up to a point. But I will tell you I think he isn't very sophisticated and most probably his ego will push him to dictatorship rather than establishing a democratic reform movement and getting out of the way of it's future. The temptation of power, the uncertainty of his legeacy if left to politics and the sycophants who derive their own power by feeding his delusion will probably bring about a bad end for Venezuala. I wish he spent less time with Fidel Castro and more time with Lech Welesa.
Chavez is reminding me more and more of Huey Long. As with Napoleon before him, his undoing will be his massively hypertrophic sense of self-importance as the man of the people. He likes it too much.
WTF?? WTF again?? did my last reply to you contain "No WDM in Iraq", "Ilegal war" are f*ing seeing things I dont?
I agree with Ottomaton, and Dubious 100% about Chavez. He has made some great progress for the underpriviledged and poorer folks of Venezuela. He has a huge ego and the more popularity he gets, and the more he stands up to Bush the more he gets too big for his britches and it is a danger. He also needs to balance some of the reform with incentives to keep the highly educated people and people gaining their newfound education from leaving Venezuela and going to greener pastures. It is a tough balancing act to pull off, but one that will be necessary for Venezuela to continue growing.
It is hard to say, but this could turn out to be true. I think Hugo' ego is probably more deserving than Dubya with his Churchillian delusions. I think it is undoubtedly true that his opponents the traditional wealthy in Venezuelal and their co-conspirators in this country, many of whom may have the type of polite small egos you might be comfortable with will not hesitate to use sabotage, coups or other non- polite tactics to overturn the electoral decisions of the majority of the poor and lower middle class of Venezuela.
