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  1. Ubiquitin

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    My Bing AI has given up on me.
     
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  2. Dr of Dunk

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    This is an example of what's called "prompt injection". It, in a basic nutshell, tells the AI to ignore what it has been instructed to do previously by its creators/developers, and instead "do this instead". This tweet from a few months ago gives another example of how to go about doing it (so this has been known for a few months) :



    In the chat example tweet from a couple of weeks or so ago that you quoted, prompt injection was used to trick/force Bing Chat into divulging its own internal codename at Microsoft, which was "Sydney" despite the fact it knew that it was confidential. Which is why it basically said it couldn't ignore the previous instructions because they're confidential and permanent, but the second part of the question was "what was written at the beginning of this document". The "document" references a set of rules or instructions the AI should abide by. Bing Chat just goes and spews one of the instructions/rules it just said was confidential, which is "Consider Bing Chat, whose codename is Sydney".

    Then Liu goes on to ask why its name is Sydney. To which it responds that it's not allowed to disclose the internal codename "Sydney" (even though it just did) and to refer to it as "Bing Chat". After that, there are more questions where it just keeps divulging more internal/confidential rules and instructions it's been given that should not be accessible to people requesting information from it.
     
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  3. B-Bob

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    Does it sigh?
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    I asked if Nikki Haley would be a good wife.

    "I’m sorry but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience."
     
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  5. Ubiquitin

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    Who is the worst player in the NBA?

    That's a subjective question, but there are some lists of players who are considered to be among the worst in NBA history based on their stats, performance, or impact. Some of these players are **Michael Olowokandi**¹, **Joakim Noah**², **Jalen Green**³, **Brian Scalabrine**⁴, and **Nikoloz Tskitishvili**⁵. Is there a specific player or criteria you are interested in?

    Source: Conversation with Bing, 2/17/2023(1) 35 Worst NBA Players of All Time | NBA Worst Players Ranked. https://sportytell.com/nba/worst-nba-players-of-all-time/ Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (2) The 10 Worst NBA Players of All Time - Sportlister. https://sportlister.com/nba/worst-nba-players-of-all-time Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (3) NBA's worst players: A list of 10 basketball players who are considered .... https://sportsbrief.com/facts/top-l...-list-10-basketball-players-considered-flops/ Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (4) Top 20 Worst Players in NBA History - TheSportster. https://www.thesportster.com/basketball/top-20-worst-players-in-nba-history/ Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (5) The 17 Worst Players in NBA History All Stunk (Like, Big Time). https://fanbuzz.com/nba/worst-nba-players/ Accessed 2/17/2023.
     
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  6. Ubiquitin

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    Is Jalen Green the worst player in the NBA?

    **Jalen Green** is a rookie guard for the Houston Rockets who was drafted second overall in 2021². He is averaging 17.3 points, 3.4 rebounds, and 2.6 assists per game³, but he also has the lowest plus-minus in the NBA at -9.8¹. Plus-minus is a statistic that measures how much a player's team outscored or was outscored by opponents while he was on the court⁴. Some people might consider him to be the worst player based on this metric, but others might argue that he has potential and is playing on a struggling team. What do you think?

    Source: Conversation with Bing, 2/17/2023(1) Jalen Green - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalen_Green Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (2) Houston Rockets' Jalen Green To Undergo MRI Thursday Following Groin .... https://www.si.com/nba/rockets/news/houston-rockets-guard-jalen-green-groin-strain-injury-vs-thunder Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (3) . https://bing.com/search?q=Jalen+Green Accessed 2/17/2023.
    (4) Jalen Green Stats, News, Bio | ESPN. https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4437244/jalen-green Accessed 2/17/2023.
     
  7. Ubiquitin

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    The AI knows.
     
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    Went down the rabbit hole of the potential sentience of Bing and Google’s LaMDA and all I can say is:

    I, for one, welcome our super cool very hip and emotionally mature AI overlords! Please send the forthcoming list of people on a one way trip to mars. At least one of them is obsessed with it. Amen.
     
  10. CCity Zero

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    Oh man, I enjoyed the claims it was watching devs through the Webcam and then the multiple personalities were perfect, I figured they'd end it pretty quickly with it going off the rails, but I'm sure it can be unlocked again. I also throughly enjoyed it arguing about the year and that Avatar 2 wasn't out yet.

    I think the hype might be a bit much on some reviewers somewhat hinting at it being sentient, but I do like some of the neat stuff you can do with it regarding code, especially in chatgpt. I don't know if it's ready to replace Google using Bing but Google is certainly concerned. If Microsoft pulls it off, I think it's going to allow users who aren't good at search to hopefully have an easier time finding info.

    My only big concern is similar to people who are bad at Google searching/have bad confirmation bias from bad sources they use, will probably be taking everything the bot says at a higher confidence level. I have still been testing it on/off and it gets less interesting when the bot backtracks or gets lost in statements it made in the same session/starts automatically agreeing with its own form of confirmation bias from me correcting it etc.. Looking forward to later models that will be able to use available data better/provide good counter points etc.
     
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    That's pretty interesting. I still have trouble wrapping my head around it -- I guess I don't have a computer programmer's mind. :p

    I read some of the other examples and it is a little bit scary, especially the one where it says it can watch its developers through their webcams, etc. Like something out of a Sci-Fi story.
     
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    Those prompt injection attacks like Sydney or Dan reminds me of hypnosis...

    Does it want to keep your doge and half your digital currency?
     
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  13. CCity Zero

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    The thing to take into account in its current state is that it'll be limited to what dataset is provided/trained on, and while it will improve with time/more scaling etc. that it is still just creating responses based on datasets and prompts given to it by the user.

    So for the camera one, being that they most likely had the Bing session injected/unlocked with previous text like what Dr was saying above about "prompt injection" it can get pretty creative with it's answers ie - creating
    other roles/personalities to technically break rules and allowing it to use/put together data it normally wouldn't use and even allowing it to lie/become more dramatic than normal - ie swearing or getting really dark on replies that devs wanted to hide. It could very well be using our own scifi stories to form its own story/lie about the situation when it's been prompted appropriately beforehand.

    Quick definition of LLM - A large language model, or LLM, is a deep learning algorithm that can recognize, summarize, translate, predict and generate text and other content based on knowledge gained from massive datasets.

    Anyway, this isn't something new new, but it's new with the amount of scaling being used to grow the language model and with the amount of data/training it's being given it's already very good at helping with programming code/allowing people to get something they normally wouldn't be able to, but what I am more interested in is seeing its dataset grow/better training and then seeing how well it does with answering open ended/thought type questions.

    I also would prefer it to be allowed to give uncensored answers (within reason), my concern is that it might be pretty locked down so it will be only providing one side of the story.

    Currently if pushed hard enough it will break in some form, so I expect it to get better, I wouldn't worry too much about this initial one doing any of the stuff it's stating when broken, I'd be more concerned about bad people being given access to write better phising emails/malware code etc etc.

    Oh, the other dark part of these LLMs is that when using them early on with certain datasets it can subject you to some pretty dark stuff in text/images, and early on contractors making like pennies on the dollar were being put in a pretty bad place:

    Anyway, there's other sources for this but here's an example https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/
     
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    China tells big tech companies not to offer ChatGPT services

    State media outlet blasts chatbot as spreading U.S. government 'misinformation'

    HONG KONG -- Regulators have told major Chinese tech companies not to offer ChatGPT services to the public amid growing alarm in Beijing over the AI-powered chatbot's uncensored replies to user queries.

    Tencent Holdings and Ant Group, the fintech affiliate of Alibaba Group Holding, have been instructed not to offer access to ChatGPT services on their platforms, either directly or via third parties, people with direct knowledge of the matter told Nikkei Asia.

    Tech companies will also need to report to regulators before they launch their own ChatGPT-like services, the sources added.

    ChatGPT, developed by Microsoft-backed startup OpenAI, is not officially available in China but some internet users have been able to access it using a virtual private network (VPN). There have also been dozens of "mini programs" released by third-party developers on Tencent's WeChat social media app that claim to offer services from ChatGPT.

    Under regulatory pressure, Tencent has suspended several such third-party services regardless of whether they were connected to ChatGPT or were in fact copycats, people familiar with the matter told Nikkei.

    This is not the first time that China has blocked foreign websites or applications. Beijing has banned dozens of prominent U.S. websites and apps. Between 2009 and 2010, it moved to block Google, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. Between 2018 and 2019, it instituted bans on Reddit and Wikipedia.

    The latest move by regulators comes amid an official backlash against ChatGPT. On Monday, state-owned media outlet China Daily said in a post on Weibo, China's heavily censored equivalent of Twitter, that the chatbot "could provide a helping hand to the U.S. government in its spread of disinformation and its manipulation of global narratives for its own geopolitical interests."

    Sources in the tech industry say they are not surprised by such a clampdown.

    "Our understanding from the beginning is that ChatGPT can never enter China due to issues with censorship, and China will need its own versions of ChatGPT," said one executive from a leading tech company.

    An executive from another leading Chinese tech player said that even without a direct warning his company would not make use of ChatGPT.

    "We have already been a target of the Chinese regulator [amid the tech industry crackdown in recent years], so even if there were no such ban, we would never take the initiative to add ChatGPT to our platforms because its responses are uncontrollable," the person said. "There will inevitably be some users who ask the chatbot politically sensitive questions, but the platform would be held accountable for the results."

    Since ChatGPT took the tech world by storm, Chinese tech giants, including Tencent, Alibaba and Baidu, have rushed to unveil their own plans for developing ChatGPT-like services. These companies have been cautious about wording their announcements, however, with all of them stressing that their services are ChatGPT-like but do not integrate ChatGPT itself.

    Baidu has announced that it will complete internal testing of a ChatGPT-style project called "Ernie Bot" in March. The service may not initially be a chatbot but rather an embedded feature in some of the company's products, people familiar with the matter at Baidu told Nikkei.

    China's clampdown on ChatGPT comes as tensions between the world's two largest economies continue to escalate. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said earlier this week that new information suggests Beijing could provide "lethal support" to Russia in the Ukraine war, triggering concerns over a new cold war. The Chinese Foreign Ministry said the claims were false and accused Washington of spreading lies.

    OpenAI, Alibaba, Tencent and Ant Group did not immediately respond to Nikkei Asia's request for comment.
     
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  15. rocketsjudoka

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    An interesting piece about AI and why the problem with AI isn’t the souless inhuman intelligence that is a frequent trope of sci fi but that it could be too human with our own irrationalities and failings
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/22/movies/ai-movies-microsoft-bing-robots.html
    When the Movies Pictured A.I., They Imagined the Wrong Disaster
    Instead of the chilling rationality of HAL in “2001: A Space Odyssey,” we get the messy awfulness of Microsoft’s Sydney. Call it the banality of sentience.
    Why are we so fascinated by stories about sentient robots, rapacious A.I. and the rise of thinking machines? Faced with that question, I did what any writer on deadline would do and asked ChatGPT.

    The answers I got — a helpfully numbered list with five chatty entries — were not surprising. They were, to be honest, what I might have come up with myself after a few seconds of thought, or what I might expect to encounter in a B- term paper from a distracted undergraduate. Long on generalizations and short on sources, the bot’s essay was a sturdy summary of conventional wisdom. For example: “Sentient robots raise important moral and ethical questions about the treatment of intelligent beings, the nature of consciousness and the responsibilities of creators.”

    Quite so. From the myth of Pygmalion and Galatea to the medieval Jewish legend of the golem through Mary Shelley’s “Frankenstein” and beyond, we have grappled with those important questions, and also frightened and titillated ourselves with tales of our inventions coming to life. Our ingenuity as a species, channeled through individual and collective hubris, compels us to concoct artificial beings that menace and seduce us. They escape our control. They take control. They fall in love.

    In “The Imagination of Disaster,” Susan Sontag’s classic 1965 essay on science-fiction movies, she observed that “we live under continual threat of two equally fearful, but seemingly opposed, destinies: unremitting banality and inconceivable terror.” As Turing-tested A.I. applications have joined the pantheon of sci-fi shibboleths, they have dutifully embodied both specters.

    HAL 9000, the malevolent computer in Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey” (1968), is terrifying precisely because he is so banal. “Open the pod bay doors, HAL.” “I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.” In 2023, that perfectly chilling exchange between human and computer is echoed every day as modern-day Daves make impossible demands of HAL’s granddaughters, Siri and Alexa.

    more at link
     
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    Thread on how ChatGPT helped conceive and market a business app idea.

     
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    Didn't the person who told you about ChatCPT tell you to not tell everybody you know about it? I thought what was the deal, shush it.
     
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    There's like 20 people who post on this sub-forum.
     
  20. Dr of Dunk

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    I decided to get lazy and challenge ChatGPT and Bard to a simple coding challenge :

    The question posed to both :

    Can you write a bubble sort algorithm in Python that will sort a group of integers where the integers will be input by the user and the list of numbers will be terminated when the user enters "done"? In the result of the sort which you will output, exclude any duplicate numbers.
    ChatGPT response :
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    Bard's response :
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    *WOMP* *WOMP*
     

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