no way man. A lineup of harris/jackson/wallace is one of the best if not the best defensive 1-2-3 lineup in the L. They are miles better than brooks/martin/budinger on D and as good or only slightly worse offensively.
Harris can light up for 20 points easily like Brooks, but he'd throw in about 8-9 assists as well. Jackson, while not as efficient as Martin, can put up big numbers as well. He lit us up for like 40 points against the supposed best defender, Battier. Also Wallace aint no stiff on offense either. He averaged like 18 ppg last season. But he also averages like 10 rebounds as well.
Boozer, Brewer, Korver, CJ Watson, Bogans is a nice haul to put with 1. Derrick Rose 2. Luol Deng 3. Joakim Noah Not to mention adding the best defensive coach in the entire league
Thank the lucky stars we don't have JVG no more cause he's in the same kind of mold as Larry Brown in that they are too stupid to develop guys so they make the gm get make players that have 7-10 years experience. And the young players they do have they might play them for a couple mins. and when they make one mistake they will yank them out of the game and you won't see them for a couple of games.
harris is getting traded bc the nets new coach avery johnson cant stand him ... he got rid of him in dallas and he wants to do the same in nj
That's exactly how i read your previous post. I am perplexed at how peope argued yourp oint by saying Yao/Scola is better than Kame/Ty. Um DUH! Asidd made his comments saying their backcourt is better than ours. Not that their whole team is better. DUH our front coourt trumps theirs, as does our bench. But they Devin/SJax/GWallace are >> than Brooks/Martin/Battier. Our backcourt is just too one dimensional. The good thing is that our front court has now bolstered its defense, so this will help cover up our backcourt's defensive weaknesses.
If harris gets traded this will be his 3rd team in like what 5 years?? he put up numbers with a bad nets team but i remember he constantly got criticized in dallas as far as wallace vs martin go.. i feel like we devalue martin in houston and over value basically everyone not in houston .. i dont think you can say hands down wallace is better than martin esp for our team and the type of offense we run ..
The difference between the Bobcats and a contending team is their lack of post scoring...People look at that lineup and they see different things. That team is condemned to mediocrity if they don't build through the draft. The bobcats are a team in a difficult situation, because Charlotte is not a very attractive place to play, consequently building through free agency is out of the question. This is a team that just payed big bucks to Kwame Brown...Right now, their team is mediocre, and yet they have no draft picks. Sucks to be a Bobcat fan right now.
@psingh: If you read my previous posts in this forum, I am one of the biggest supporters of Martin, so you just shot yourself in the foot. With Yao still shaking off the rust and only playing 24 mins a game, my opinion is that Martin is our #1 / go-to guy on offense. I value him as our #1 option before Brooks and Scola. Do you still think I devalue Martin? 2nd of all, Wallace and Martin do not play the same position, so I don't understand how you could read my post as a criticism against Martin. I'm saying that Wallace would be better than Battier as our SF as he is a much better rebounder and scorer, and almost as good on defense. Wallace is much like Artest on defense actually. He's very good. He would be the perfect compliment to Martin. If we are in win now mode, I would actually trade away Brooks for Wallace straight up. I know it sounds crazy and not many would agree with me, but we would be an easy #2 in the West, and can defend the Lakers very well to take them in the WCF. Now if I'm looking at the future, I'd keep Brooks because he's younger than Wallace. Either way, I'd want to keep Martin no matter what, unless we net a top tier superstar.
Of course a lineup of Harris, Wallace and Jackson is much better than Brooks, Martin and Battier. However those three guys you mentioned are already 90% of the Bobcats talent pool, and this is assuming Harris does indeed get traded to the Bobcats. On the other hand Martin/Brooks/Battier are like only 40% of the rockets talent on the team so personally I find this cherry picking kind of comparison useless. Its like saying you'd rather have Lebron/Wade/Chalmer over Brooks/Martin/Battier. Or you'd rather have Kobe Bryant over Courtney Lee. Or you'd rather have Pau Gasol over Jordan Hill. If we had Harris/Jackson/Wallace/Scola/Yao we would be the team to beat in the entire league. And what's your point by saying this? The thread is about how the Bobcats are building their team without drafting anyone. A look at their roster shows its not the way to go, like I said even if they did a good trade and landed harris, 90% of their talent will still just be on three players, and neither of those three players are superstars.
Raymond Felton fit in better with the Bobcats than Devin Harris. Felton passes better, rebounds better, and shoots better from beyond the arc. Harris is more consistent, younger, and quicker, but I would rather have a guy that isn't soft.
Making the playoffs makes you relevant and they will make the playoffs for the next few years believe it or not.
No depth and no chemistry... Benches Lowry/Lee/Budinger/Hayes/Miller Livingston/Carroll/Brown/Najera/Kwame??? Bobcats are far from being a contender...
I strongly agree with Knote32. I would say that, after Miami, Chicago easily had the best off season in the league so far. Their only real problem last season was their lack of depth. Now they add a great coach, an all-star power forward and shore up their depth with guys like Brewer, Korver, Watson and Bogans. And what did they lose in the process? Kirk Heinrich? I'm not sure they'll be better than the Heat, Celtics and Magic, but they're still easily playing for home court. As for the topic at hand, the Bobcats are pretty awful. I am not impressed with that starting lineup AT ALL. I like Devin Harris, Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace to an extent, but if any of them are the best player on your team, you have an awful team.
