It wasn't just that remark. There has been a pattern for a while now. Hillary made her comment about it taking a white president to get King's vision into law. Bill making the "fairy tale" comment And the Hillary supporter that made the comment about what Obama was doing in the "hood" while as a young man while Hillary was first lady. There was some other Hillary supporter making some comment about "shuck and jive to the white house." Hillary has been very dangerous with some of her comments. Why do you think Bill’s been calling in to all the black talk shows the last couple of days trying to talk everyone back from their comments? He knows the Hillary camp has crossed the line and they’re afraid this is going to explode in their face.
mark, hasn't it been two prominent African-Americans who have made the most strong criticism of Obama recently?
so the guy who posts about the black church and the reprirations is blaming obama for bringing race into the campaign. you guys are funny
What does it matter where they came from? Cloaking racism in the veil of "criticism" isn't the providence of just white people like TJ. Anyway it's stupid and it should have never come to this. I was hoping we as a country would be pasgt all this. guess not
the problem is that you're equating criticsm of Obama as racism. Even criticism from African-Americans of Obama is almost being equated to racism according to your statement. I don't think that's being fair to Hillary, and if anything really just validates the Clintons latest claims.
exactly, hillary makes comment about lbj and mlk, black preachers criticize (this may have been the real problem), reporters run to obama, obama says hillary should be careful with her comments (no statement about race) now all of sudden its race war. its stupid, and it only plays into the hands of the republicans. this is exactly what republicans want, to drag race into this campaign so they can blame obama for playing racial politics. none of this stuff has substance.
well I'll say one thing's for sure, the race thing is definetely being whipped up by the media. The only criticism I've heard from the Clintons of Obama is inexperienced and naieve about running things. the only people who have injected race into this is the media. It will help Obama in the primary IMO if the race card continues to play out. But I can't see it helping him in the general election.
Sounds about right. Let's see if the candidates can put this puppy to rest. The media will keep asking the candidates and various surrogates. Hopefully it will pass. Certainly Rush and Hannity are having a ball with this. Maybe the Michigan primary results will give the mainstream media something else to talk about. Rush and gang will try their best to keep this going as long as possible.
A Clinton-Obama ticket is a bad idea. Everyone always talks about getting the soccer mom vote or the minority vote. But a pair like that would get almost none of the white male vote. And it's gonna be pretty tough to win any red states under those circumstances.
i ahd no idea you watched/listened to Rush and Hannity- i'm impressed- you're even more of a masochist than i thought.
It looks like both candidates understand they don't go to total war and are backing off and moving to 'unity' platitudes. As for the VP debate, best would be Hillary/Edwards now with Obama running a good race then bowing out for 'unity.' He can then either take a high profile position or solidify his 'experience' credentials to run in 8 years. If the next 8 years are good he can run under unity and if not he can still run under 'change' then.
Have been thinking Obama/Biden is my fav ticket. Hits that experienced Cheney-like figure lurking in the background thing that people seemed to love with Shrubya.
The Bill Clinton fairy tale comment was totally blown out of proportion. I don't understand why that comment was part of the debate at all. Hillary's comment about LBJ, and MLK, was poorly worded on her part, and just not a smart thing to have done, and I understand why it would have ruffled some feathers, worded the way it was. The comment from the owner of BET was totally out of bounds, and Hillary should come out and denounce immediately.
mc mark, are you saying that it didn't take a Democratic President, LBJ, to push through the Voting Rights Act and make it law? I'm not a fan of Hillary, but this is getting ludicrous. And if you don't think Obama is taking this "slur" of Dr. King by Ms. Clinton and running with it, you're not paying attention. He's exploiting it and hey, it's about race. So what is he doing? Exactly what he's accusing Ms. Clinton of doing. Impeach Bush.
No, being a democrat or republican had nothing to do with it. She was obviously making a reference to the notion that Obama "talks about hope and change" (Dr King) but it took a "pragmatic" (elected president) to enact the dream. It was a distinction she was trying to make. Very awkwardly. And instead of admitting it accuses Obama of taking it out of context and making it about race? Again, it's stupid! We're on the same side!
I think you are right, at least mostly. Obama did mention that it offended some folks, and while I believe that he was partially honor-bound to do so, I don't think he was hoping that he would get some mileage out of it as well. It isn't that LBJ didn't push it through and do great things for civil rights, she talked about in a context that diminished Dr. King's role as if it was just his dreaming and LBJ's actions that really did it. I think her point was valid, but the way she phrased it, did diminish King's role, and could be offensive, or easily misunderstood. I do think that if he really wanted to run with it, he could have made a much bigger deal out of it than he has. I guess he didn't need to since the press has done a fine job of blowing the whole race issue out of proportion in regards to this.
So Hillary is to LBJ as Obama is to MLK. I think I'd rather be compared to MLK for all his flaws. I bet the ad rates have gone up...
