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Charles Barkley Says:

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ShadyMcGrady, Feb 15, 2007.

  1. TBar

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    Per T-Man:

    "There is a time to be a homer and then there is a time to be real.

    Everyone is b****in about what Barkley said...

    Well the fact is until they beat them in the playoffs then he is telling the truth. Beating them in the regular season doesn't mean Jack Schmidt; the playoffs is where it counts.

    The fact that everyone is saying when Yao gets back.. when Yao gets back.. What about when Yao gets back? I am like everyone else hoping that good things will come and the team will jell together. But unfortunantely we don't know what is going to happen. Yao may come back and disrupt the flow of the team or jvg may try to force feed him the ball down low taking everyone out of their game. The fact is we may or may not be able to beat the elite teams with our superstars.

    The first step is to make it into the playoffs... Then they can prove to everyone in the media that they can beat the Big Boys that are on top."

    T_Man

    You are absolutely right. THis team has not proven if they can even get to the playoffs. I'm loving this team and it's chances. I have high hopes as a fan. You are right we may not even make the playoffs. I hope we do. We may not make it past the 1st round. I hope we do!

    Charles says we cannot beat Utah, Denver, SAn antonio, Dallas, or Phoenix. He may be right, but I doubt it. I think and hope we can win. We will see.

    Hey Charles - Remember "butt Kicking time"??????? Thanks for Choking at home with the better team A-hole. Thaks for allowing us to get to the next round.

    Sir Charles Barkley helped us more as a Phoenix Sun than he ever did as a Rocket. Thanks for 2 championships when you choked buddy!!!!!

    You get all the credit for getting us past Seattle in "97- you should get your share of credit for getting us past Phoenix too!!!!

    Charles BArkley - you may be right - but I do not like the way you say it.

    Keep on Eating (enjoy that butter, red meat, bacon, and high fat food)and gambling Charles Barkley-good times!!!

    I was at your retirement cermony at Compaq Center-we cheered for you. You said you wished you had been on the Houston Rockets team all your career. I guess you do not remember....
     
  2. txppratt

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    charles' comments may be right on. this team has struggled against utah, phoenix, and dallas. this is our year to whoop SA though... so he is wrong about them.

    i am a rockets fan through and through, but let's be real, THIS rockets team has yet to show true mental toughness against the toughest teams in the league.

    so i do have some doubts. having said that: who knows what the trade deadline will bring? we ARE talented enough to beat anybody. this team simply needs some "practice" at winning in the playoffs.

    if we can just win one series with yao and tmac leading the way, this team will get hungry and be very dangerous in future years.
     
  3. AXG

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    I don't think Chuck regularly watches the Rockets play. The Rockets have proven they can beat the Spurs, the Jazz, the Mavs, and they competed well against Phoenix without our two superstars in the lineup. I just think once the Rockets win a series in the playoffs, everyone will shut up and accept Houston as a championship contender.
     
  4. TBar

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    I'm facing the fact that Charles Barkley may be be right and we have not proven ourselves against Dallas and Phoenix. We may not be able to get past the 1st round.

    I get that.

    I just do not like the way he says it.

    I loved him and supported him as a Rocket-I feel betrayed by his coments. He may be right-he just does not have to be disrespectful.......
     
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    I would be willing to bet.................

    that Dallas and Phoenix would both rather play each other than to play us with a healthy 111.
     
  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Have you never seen his show before? He is "disrespectful" of basically every team and player in the NBA, mostly because in his head he is probably comparing them to when he was in his prime, and the new NBA is coming up short. Foodworld doesn't hate the Rockets, he hates the decline of the NBA, IMO.
     
  7. TBar

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    Per Stupid Moniker:

    "Have you never seen his show before? He is "disrespectful" of basically every team and player in the NBA, mostly because in his head he is probably comparing them to when he was in his prime, and the new NBA is coming up short. Foodworld doesn't hate the Rockets, he hates the decline of the NBA, IMO."

    I have seen the show since he started on TNT. I was a fan of his in Philadelphia. I supported him and was proud when he got traded to Phoenix-a new start for him!!!!

    I supported him as a Rockets and felt his pain when Brent Price went down with an torn ACL. A heartbreak.

    I was proud of him in Utah in Sprin ' 98 when we beat the better tam in the 1st game in the 1st round. Heart!!!

    I have been a fan of his from the start.

    He does not have to disrespect the Rockets now.....



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  8. TBar

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    Per Stupid Moniker:

    "Have you never seen his show before? He is "disrespectful" of basically every team and player in the NBA, mostly because in his head he is probably comparing them to when he was in his prime, and the new NBA is coming up short. Foodworld doesn't hate the Rockets, he hates the decline of the NBA, IMO."

    He kisses kobe's butt. He kisses Ginobili's butt. He kisses the Spurs' butt. He does not disrespect everyone.

    Recall him calling Detroit Pistons last season the " '86 Celtics"-Kissing Detoit's butt.....
     
  9. tinman

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    why does barkley have to say nice things? its funnier when he doesnt.
     
  10. bjshot

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    yes, totally agreed. Coach JVG also mentioned Jazz, Dallas, SA and Suns as top 4 of The West a month also ago. Charles just doesn't respect Yao a lot because yao was considered as a sisi style player. But now It is definitely wrong. Yao's power is on the same level of Shaq. Other centers in the league just make pathetic efforts to defense yao. Only shaq can equalize yao. But no anaylst want to admit their mistake.
     
  11. yaopao

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    Considering that we hadn't won a playoff series in 10 years, where exactly is he wrong?
     
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    If Barkley makes r****ded statements like the one that started this post, how does he think that he's going to be taken seriously in politics?

    rediculous
     
  13. TBar

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    Per Yaopao:

    "Considering that we hadn't won a playoff series in 10 years, where exactly is he wrong?"

    Right we have not won a playoff series since '97. No arguing that. Barkley could be right that we cannot win any playoff games against Utah, SA, Dallas, Phoenix, Lakers, Denver, or any Western team for that matter. No debating that. We are an unproven team.

    So say we are an unproven team. Say we are a team without all our players competing in a very tough division.

    do not disrespect this team.

    the fans have high hopes- we supported Barkley when he was here.
     
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    good point. I think he dares not bet with others about Rox in the playoff, or he will kiss a cow's ass or sth like that.
     
  15. TYAOC

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    He is gonna kiss his own ass! :D
     
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    Man we are definetely capable of beating mavs, utah, and san antonio.. We almost beat the mavs the other day, we could take them with yao and mcgrady cuz they cant double team both of them at the same time. utah, we have already showed them that we can beat them and san antonio sux now...they got a old team with no athleticism. rox will beat them forsure
     
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    he actually said that we cant beat DENVER? ****. or any other team? way to judge us without one of our star players. probably because he thinks the team is better without yao or some **** like that.
     
  18. Desert Scar

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    I am sure he doesn't hate the Rockets. I think he even likes some of our players.

    But maybe he just doesn't think the Rockets team is very good. At least not an elite team. I think he underrates Phx (I think he thinks they have no chance) and the Rockets, and overrates SA (who I think he picked last year and probably the start of this year) and Kobe and some others, but so what?

    There are too many pansies around hear. Barkley is on TV to be funny, provoke controversy, and provide some insight as a former great NBA player. He isn't mean or hatefull about it, just expressing his opinion. Losing "respect" for a player who took a low salary to resign with the Rockets and busted his ass while here and took on a secondary role to help us to last title shots while Hakeem had some game left because he has a lesser opinion of how well the current team plays basketball than you do seems to be missing the big picture.

    It isn't like our post-Barkley playoff record makes opinion that off base. Make him look silly with team results, not whining and pouting because we as fans think finally we can do better in the playoffs.

    If anything his charge and others like him should fire up Tmac and Yao and co to prove the skeptics wrong. That is a good thing.
     
  19. bgismh

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    Chucky also predicted back in November that the Rockets would'nt make the playoffs. Now that they are firmly in position for the playoffs he's saying the Rockets could'nt beat any of the 4 teams of them. Even if the Rockets win in the 1st round against Spurs or Jazz I'm betting that he will predict them losing in the next round and so forth even into the Finals.

    Rockets are 2-1 vs Spurs, should be 3-0 because they were up by 19 late in the 3rd in the 1st meeting in Houston before giving it away. One win was without T-Mac, the other was without Yao.

    1-3 vs Mavs, all 3 losses without Yao and Kirk/Wells were either unavailable or at less than 100% health/fitness. The first loss was close and competitive until the 4th quarter, no Yao and no contribution from Wells or Snyder but T-Mac was playing well. The last loss was winnable all the way till the end, but I think T-Mac was 1-5 on FTs in the 4th, Head only shot 2-10 on FGs, Alston was 3-10.

    1-1 vs Jazz. The loss was in the season opener in Utah. Yao missed some preseason games and sat out early in the last preseason game for precautionary reasons so he was'nt 100% sharp or fit yet he played reasonably well while T-Mac was 8-24 in the 10 point loss. Can't read too much into the loss because the Rockets (in particular T-Mac) were playing below average which was not a surprise for the first game of the season. The Rockets won the matchup at home on Jan 5 by 14 points with Yao out and T-Mac playing well.

    0-2 vs Suns. The Suns are the toughest matchup for the Rockets. In the first meeting Yao had some foul trouble and put up subpar numbers. McGrady was only 9-26. This was only Nov 29 so it was'nt the T-Mac we have been seeing lately. The second loss occurred in Houston but neither T-Mac or Yao played. The Rockets played well, especially Alston in a surprisingly competitive loss. If both Yao and McGrady play well the Rockets can beat the Suns but if one of them is struggling then they need a strong performance from the supporting cast.

    I doubt that Barkley watched more than 1 or 2 of the Rockets games against those teams in total. The Rockets are only 4-7 collectively so far against those 4 teams but they should have won in the loss against the Spurs which would make it 5-6. At least 2 of the other losses were close and winnable, with either Yao being out or McGrady struggling early in the season as major factors.
     
  20. NewYorker

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    All of this is moot. We'll find out come May/JUne or not. If the Rockets lose to the Mav/Suns/Spurs/Jazz - then Barkeley was right. Otherwise he's wrong. Just wait and see folks. It's really simple.
     

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