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Character of Houston Sports Legends

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Sishir Chang, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. tinman

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    you're right. apparently people will hate him forever for his past. cause its easy to hate.
     
  2. Hey Now!

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    honestly, msn, i know on the surface you meant no harm, but understand, comments like:
    go to the heart of what i'm talking about. who are you to decide the appropriate length needed for recovery? "it's over"? for who? you? more importantly, why are you casting her mental state -whatever it might be - in a negative light, as if being bitter over having your life threatened is somehow the wrong reaction...?

    both of those comments excuse the action. "sure, it happened - but it was 15 years ago! it's over. hopefully, those ancient events didn't leave behind any bitter feelings..." would you feel the same way if we were dicussing an abused child?
     
  3. Hey Now!

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    relax, tinman - no one is hating, yo. i don't give two ****s about warren moon. it's a discussion of "classiness;" not like or dislike. same to you, msn - we're not giving a eulogy. beating your wife, regardless of why and what's happened since, automatically disqualifies you for inclusion in this discussion.
     
  4. msn

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    The nature of that question betrays that you don't know what I meant. I wasn't talking about her recovery. There are so many issues here, and it's easy to allow them to all coagulate together. At first, this was a discussion between you and me. You are mortally offended, still, at Warren Moon. Perhaps even more offended (now) than Felicia is (now). Who are you to carry her offense? You have no idea what it felt like.

    The event is over. That's all. Again, I was (until that last statement) addressing sports fans on an IBB. For you and I, it never even started, so yes, it's over (for you and I). You didn't quote the part where I said Moon's actions were "evil", "heinous", and "inexcusable". You and I have no idea how he's responded and whether he has changed.

    I didn't cast her mental state in any light at all! "I hope she isn't bitter". Bitterness kills, dude. Listen, I know people who have gone through even worse, and while they of course will never excuse the heinous actions committed against them, they live free from the bitterness of it all. Other people's actions have no control or influence over the lives of these people today. They are heroes to me. So, when I say, "I hope she isn't bitter," please understand I did not say, "I hope she got over it", or, "I hope she has excused the behaviour". I wish the best for that woman, even though I've never met her.

    Only in the inaccurate interpretation you've employed.

    I don't feel that way. What you said here is the farthest thing from what I meant to communicate. I'm sorry I have failed to communicate it effectively.
     
  5. MadMax

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    ummm...if it was filed as an affidavit with a court or as a statement with the police you could find it in public records, tinman.

    your excuses for athletes because you liked them on the field is laughable.

    i don't hate warren moon. i loved warren moon as a QB. but there is no excuse for strangling your wife.
     
  6. tinman

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    warren moon is a class guy. he made some mistakes in the past, but he's not going around choking women left and right. he was under lots of pressure in Houston and maybe some of it got to him.

    you guys might think warren moon is mike tyson, but i think he's warren moon.
     
  7. Smokey

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    It's not worth arguing with people who minimize and excuse Moon's behavior :rolleyes:
     
  8. msn

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    You sound like you know him personally. Do you?

    Dude, that's horrible. There are people under a lot more pressure than that that don't do what he did. There is *no* excuse. It's one thing not to continually hang someone's past over his head; it's quite another to sweep it under the rug with the lame excuses you've run out in this thread.
     
  9. MadMax

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    remember when i said it was laughable?
     
  10. gunn

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    Fixed it.
     
  11. msn

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    ouch.
     

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