If awful is still being a top 10 rookie in his first 3 months, sign me up. Regardless of draft position, expecting the next coming of Michael, Lebron or Kobe this fast is a serious miscalculation and something the fandom experience seems to do to many folks. He’s a rookie. A ROOKIE.
The "ignore" feature is key to a decent Jalen conversation. He's been up and down but he's a Rocket. He seems like things have slowed down for him.
Haters gon hate. They will be back when these events happen… - When an injury happens. - Sophomore struggles when teams give him new looks, double teams, etc. - Missed GW at the end of a game
I was definitely worried about the direction of everything with his development to start the season, but I’m glad I didn’t say anything stupid that can be used against me in the future He’s definitely starting to look like a foundational piece. Now we just need some luck and turn that Brooklyn pick into a top 4 pick.
For those of you bashing those of us who questioned the Green pick after the first few months of the season, have you forgotten how "lost" Green looked early on? He looked like a church league player, like he had never been taught the fundamentals of the game. The last few games he has looked like a different player. Who knows what brought about the change. I would like to think our coaches have "coached" him up. Maybe he just got "comfortable." I don't know, but I am happy for him and us. The Rockets can't afford to throw away second round picks, they are too scarce.
The whole point is not that anyone was wrong to criticize him. The point is that you don't criticize rookies or call him a bust because his first three months in the NBA on a bad team have some serious struggles. Of course coaching, comfort with the speed of the game, knowing the system, etc are going to make a difference lol. This is literally what rookies do, and yet people were acting ridiculous every time he struggled to shoot the ball against NBA defenders as a teenager.
Lol what brought the change? Him growing up? He's a rookie. Players improve. This is the time in a NBA player's career where one would expect to see rapid improvement. That's why we we weren't panicking. Because we know he's a rookie guard who has to get used to the NBA pace and physicality That is why we never got you and your ilks' doom and gloom pretending that the careers of the top 5 lottery picks were set in stone after a month into their NBA careers.
We could offer the BKN pick if close to lottery, other future picks, Wood and/or Tate to get into top 5 if we wanted. No luck needed, just make a godfather offer.
What makes Green's scoring surge with good efficiency the past couple of weeks a sustainable thing is that he's scoring well without being hot from three. Beginning of the season for him to have a good efficient scoring game, he HAD to be hot from three. His game has advanced in the course of a single season where he can have a efficient 20+ PT game without being hot from three. That's what sustainable looks like.
Yeah, that was my main problem with him. He looked like Mowgli thrown into a gala at the Met. Well, a player who'd never been coached a day in his life. He'll have his fall-to-earth games (especially when he and Wood barely co-exist, unlike last night's match), but he's on the upswing.
I don't remember what you've said about Green, so this is just in general. Loud opinions get loud responses most times. That goes for any opinion favoring any side of an argument. Picking #2 in a great draft tends to bring out louder opinions than picking late it seems
We all know he didn't come out the gate looking like an NBA-ready starter. But a lot of us had the good sense to realize that we were talking about a 19-year old kid (with only 15 G-League games under his belt since HS). The point isn't that he looked bad, the problem was the immediate knee-jerk assumption that he wouldn't improve and the subsequent rooting against him so y'all could look like you knew it all along. Young players get better with experience. It has been true of the NBA and sports in general since the beginning, so for anybody to act like the improvement came out of nowhere and was unforeseeable, well that doesn't really make any sense. I'm not sure Jalen looked any more "lost" than half of y'all spewing this BS all over the forum but if we can take anything from this hopefully it would be a more measured perspective on developing players and less hating on our own guys. For that reason I don't think y'all can get clowned enough. It's perfectly fine to be realistic about what a player needs to improve at. It's another thing to jump to a conclusion, express that conclusion with 100% certainty, and then continue to argue until the bitter end wanting to be "right". Makes this forum a pretty crappy place to root for the Rockets, in my opinion.
Can't speak for others but my beef was with people who declared him a bust based on first or second month of his first NBA season as a 19 year old on a team that offered no real mentors .it appears patience and not rushing to judgement is paying off.
It's not just you guys though, the opposite side saying he'd be a future hall of famer probably got even more flak. That Jalen Green only fan guy fell off the board altogether. And that's kind of the point when watching rookies. Everyone is so quick to say that they'll be a superstar or a bust when really, what you're watching is an incomplete product. It's like saying for sure that you'll know how good or bad a movie will be based on the trailer. The fact just is that while the things we see right now are definitely good indicators of what to come, these players are still at such raw stages of their careers that everything can quickly flip from one way or another with nothing more but time and experience. We're gonna be seeing a lot of young players in the next few years. Maybe, as Rockets fans we're just not used to the life cycle of high end rookies anymore cause we've been in the playoffs for so many years. Just remember that it doesn't come together till it comes together. Sometimes, it does right away and others it never does. But don't be talking like you can see the future based on tiny little glimpses.
Hey, look: CX accusing a poster of suffering from "mental illness" for daring to claim that Green would improve. How classy.
Yeah the actual JOFs fizzled out a long time ago. Whatever happened to that one dude that was literally called JOF lmao
