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Chapelle getting canceled?!

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  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Wtf

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    Dave Chappelle faces backlash over new Netflix special 'ridiculing trans people'


    Dave Chappelle is facing allegations of transphobia and homophobia over remarks in his Netflix special, The Closer.

    The special, his sixth and last (for now) with the streaming service since a 2016 deal, came out Tuesday and immediately sparked backlash, including from GLAAD and National Black Justice Coalition, for jokes directed at the LGBTQ+ community, specifically trans people.

    At the show, recorded at The Fillmore in Detroit in August, Chappelle, who has long been criticized for remarks about LGBTQ+ people, stirred things up again by making comments like, “Gender is a fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. That is a fact." He went on to make fun of the genitalia of trans women.

    Chappelle also defended Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling who has faced allegations of transphobia for years.

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    Dave Chappelle is facing backlash over latest Netflix special which targets a favorite mark: transgender people. (Photo: REUTERS/Lucas Jackson)
    “They canceled J.K. Rowling — my God," he said. "Effectually she said gender was a fact. The trans community got mad as sh**, they started calling her a TERF," Chappelle said, which means "trans-exclusionary radical feminists," whose views about feminism are seen as anti-trans. He added, "I'm team TERF... Gender is a fact."

    At another point, Chappelle addressed the LGBTQ+ community directly, asking to "negotiate the release of DaBaby," the rapper who was criticized for homophobic comments this summer, saying he "punched the LGBTQ community right in the AIDS." Chappelle brought up DaBaby firing a gun that killed a 19-year-old in 2018, but said it was his anti-gay comments that got him canceled.

    "In our country, you can shoot and kill a n*****, but you better not hurt a gay person's feelings," Chappelle said.

    At another point, he talked about getting into a fight with a lesbian, quipping, “I’m glad TMZ didn’t believe that — because I did beat the sh** out of her. I’m not gonna lie. It was her fault. I had no choice."
     
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  2. Invisible Fan

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    He dropped another one? Nice reminder!

    Guess I gotta watch it first in order to get outragd....
     
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    Netflix and some trans comments etc. this ish getting outa hand
     
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  4. B-Bob

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    uh, more info?
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    Comics of that era made loads of gay and mentally handicapped jokes. A lot of Norms stuff would be cancelled and he was cancelled by Netflix for defending cuckoo Roseanne.

    It's definitely a generational thing and even if Dave was cancelled he'll still draw stadiums and ppv contracts.

    He'd need a Cosby level scandal to bring him down but this is still a real test for comedy and where is heading
     
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    Impossible.
     
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    Fk these woke pssys.
     
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    Sounds like some things he said were questionable. However, the above is pretty good. And maybe even insightful.
     
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    Chappelle is uncancellable. The woke police does this all the time with today's top comics. It was only a short time ago when they came for Bill Burr and Joe Rogan. They've come for Dave before and they'll come for him again. It's simply not going to happen.
     
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    Sounds like the Yahoo article is punching down. ;)
     
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    I just watched it on 1.5x (saving that much time is like crack for binging).

    It's not his best work, but the man has a skill and power to tell a story and connect. It's like mj reworking his game post first retirement. He could totally go Joel Olsteen and work up a tax free organization. I'd be a believer just to listen more.

    There's some cringey stuff about trans or women in general but these complaints over transphobicness are all about wanting to control that powerful pulpit he has and use it for their own Greater Goods.

    On a meta level, I feel like Dave is playing a character in the Netflix shows to shed light on the American voice, sometimes black, sometimes upper class elite many white fans can identify with.

    As much as we pretend, we all don't get what the trans community is about and just beimg told how to act isn't going to change any of the **** they go thru. It's going to take years and maybe another couple decades for America to figure it out. I think that's his message, that cancelling or whatever isn't going to magically accelerate that resistance. Despite the current reality of many peopl's thoughts about trans can possibly be deliberately shitty, censorship isn't the answer. It's to oint where it overshadows their individual stories and struggles.

    When homosexuality became mainstream accepted in the last decade, it was mostly stories about family or friends knowing homosexuals and what they had to overcome. Activist groups or parades can take all the credit, but they don't have any clout or power with Middle America.

    There will be some fans who will parrot a few of his lines to avoid that empathy or one-up the angry groups (makes me think of Norm's subreddit full of awful and unfunny people). Twisting or parsing a message to conform to a personal worldview is natural. Otoh, these groups and certain media pundits are trying to subvert talent with full knowledge that they themselves can't achieve the same effect. So their only recourse is to silence or to manipulate

    The last part is going on in twitter or the internet and they're both equally tough challenges to overcome if we don't want the downward spiral in discourse to continue.
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    His demographic doesn’t care.
     
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    People have been trying to cancel him for a long, long time. Remember that joke he made in one of his early specials, about how the couple in the crowd front of him (Mexican man and Asian woman)? He said something like, "that is going to be the hardest working baby of all time." The man laughed hysterically; the woman got mad. She wrote to the network and to the venue and to everyone else trying to get Dave in trouble. But it didn't work.
     
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    lol

    it's fake outrage by twitter

    the masses love Chappelle

    He even knocked off the Squid Games at #1
     
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    the people who are 'offended' he takes them puts them on a joke on a netflix special.
    that man is awesome.

    he's playing chess while everyone is playing bingo
     
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    @Deckard

    I'm glad he brought up DaBaby

    Dave's a hero

    Dave is the name of heroes
     
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    Seriously, I have no idea how anyone, LBGTQ or otherwise, can listen, and I mean truly listen, to that whole act and still come away with the notion that he is transphobic. He literally explains his past incidents and true intentions regarding the matter the whole second half of the show and very clearly, eloquently tells you what he is all about. If your conclusion is that he is an evil, hateful person then just agree to disagree and move on there is nothing else he could possibly say to better defend himself.
     
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    Nah, what Dave says is offensive. Anyone else repeating half of the 'mean comments' he says would be tarred and feathered on Twitter.

    He knows it. Everyone knows it. On some level, that division pulls him higher with his fans.

    Dave mainly cares about comics (not everyone) being able to say whatever they want to get a laugh but not all comics are Mark Twain Award recipients. And that's his core issue, should bigoted comics get the same pass as Dave even if they're unfunny and can't last 5 minutes in front of a few people?

    Some people will say yes because comedy is an art, but speech these days is a different matter. If I pull my pants down in public and start flashing people, is that also art?

    Only if I can last half an hour without getting booed off stage
     
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    The people who are offended by his stand up don’t have to watch it. In fact you don’t have to watch everything in existence but… In this climate I get it. Feelings are hurt. When it comes to comedy I don’t take everything at face value and I can not just watch it. I don’t have Netflix so I have to find other means to watch this.
     
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