Chandler Parsons over Jeremy Tyler -- Did Morey make the right decision?

Tyler had character/attitude issues. Im glad we passed on him. I love our only good/decent/clean guys policy.

We don't have anyone that gets done for pot or DUI, carrying guns, getting into fights in clubs, beating women or even speeding. (please no jinx)

I love it. Our guys are true exemplary role models for all the other professional players and clubs.

 

It's the Bill Simmons corollary: you can always afford to have one Crazy in the clubhouse, just not two. Ron Artest anyone? Oh and we never had anyone get in trouble with the law for anything that I can remember, but we sure had one guy get chased by pimps and then shot in the leg!

 

Hello...Rafer Alston? Gerald Green, Eddie Griffin? Mad Max?

We have had plenty of bad guys getting in trouble with the man....hell Rudy T got charged with drunk driving....

DD

 

Err...you only got one half of the formula correct (amazingly, he actually came up with the theory when thinking about the late Eddie Griffin).

As much as I love all our guys, there just isn't that Alpha dog to keep everyone in check.

 

We have one, but it is Chuck Hayes, and when a role player is your alpha dog you are wallowing in mediocrity at best.

DD

 

A white player quota is part of the new CBA?

 

Def. clutchfans 2011 Hassan Whiteside dream pick. The one Morey "shoulda got."

Everyone one here is a certified "YouTube" scout.

-Look, you need to understand the Rockets front office to understand their draft picks. They will not pick Anyone unless there is sufficient data they can analyze about any prospect. They need numerous in game statistics and analytical reports they can run to make the best decision possible.

Its highly unlikely that the Rockets, with this front office, will ever draft anyone based on length, height, and youtube clips alone. He scored well at the draft combine, but his play overseas was apparently not well documented and he was reported as a difficult players to scout because of lack of data.

Maybe fans would take a flyer on someone like Tyler, but an orginization investing that much money and time into a prospect will likely want to know what they are getting for their money.

 

Dobro,

We are talking about 2nd round picks here, I mean look at Dorsey, look at Jermaine Taylor, if you are going to take a flyer in the 2nd round, why not take one at a spot of desperation and need.

The funny thing to me is that Morey used to downplay height, said they valued production which led to Landry and Brooks picks, but now Morey has changed his tune, he made a massive point last year about PPat being AVG sized for a PF.

That tells me that he has grown to appreciate height more, and is growing as a GM.

Now, we need some height in the draft.......

DD

 

I disagree. I think it's improved our situation. If you pick up players that are undervalued and flip them for what they're actually worth, you'll be gaining value everytime you make a move.

 

I disagree. I think Kyle Lowry really blossomed last year as the leader of this team. If we lose Chuck, Kyle will be, unquestionably, the leader of this squad. After Aaron was traded, Kyle's character became the character of the team as a whole.

 

I do think Lowry is going to be "THE GUY" but my concern is that he is an average athlete who plays harder than most everyone else in the league.

That is great in the regular season, but in the playoffs, when you get more talented guys playing hard also he might struggle.

My theory is that he looks great in these summer games because he always competes, and clearly a lot of players do not.

I like Lowry, but I think he will never be an elite PG, just a good solid one that will compete like crazy....

DD

 

Im not saying its the right approach and to not take a flyer on a 2nd rounder with major potential and that height and length dont have value to a team. (even though they got one in Marcus Cousin for free). Im just trying to help people realize how the Rockets front office scouts, and to not be surprised when they dont draft a Jeremy Tyler, Whiteside, or Cousin.

They might look the part, but these guys need DATA to make it high on their draft board.

Dont worry, Im an unlicensed YouTube scout myself. No shame in that.

 

The thing is, I prefer my crazy guy a bit more talent. At least starter level ability. Not mid-2nd round pick ability.

I think Morey's going about it the right way with his picks. Use 2nd round picks on role players you normally have to spend ~$4-5 mil/yr to obtain through FA. And use the extra capspace to overbid for good players you want.

 

This is a good point. Second round picks are cheap rotation fodder, and when one of them is successful, you've got a valuable asset to trade for someone else to overpay on his next contract.

It's kind of like being a pimp. A good pimp is always training fresh talent. Someone lures away his best "asset," who cares? The pimp knows that average talent is a dime a dozen and there's nothing worse than an "asset" who wants more than they are worth. It's ruthless, but this is a business after all! :grin:

 

Since when was Budinger considered a solid SF??

 

i disagree, i think Whiteside is better.

 

Maybe because 90% of the centers drafted end up as busts ? Look there is always an exception to the rule but the overwhelming evidence goes to show that the majority of them end up as scrubs. Unless he is a a guy like Yao or Howard i don't mind this sort of strategy.

Also the reason why we didn't draft a center before was because we had YAO MING !!

 

So we're making judgements when neither player has played yet? Before we see if any of our SFs are getting traded?

 

Yes, Yes, we are.

 

But keep in mind this is the 38th pick in the NBA draft. That's important. Because we all know NBA dynasties are created through 2nd round picks. If Morey blows this one, we may still feel the reverberations ten years down the road.