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  1. plutoblue11

    plutoblue11 Member

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    Drafted

    Quality contributors, capable starters, and borderline all-stars. Also, undrafted players.

    109- players drafted in 2nd round, played at least 500 NBA games and/or achieved 15.0 Win shares (until 2006)
    122 - including all stars
    38 - Undrafted players who achieved 500 games played and/or 15.0 Win Shares (or on pace to best 15.0 win shares)

    160 - Total (2nd round all stars, 2nd round contributors, and undrafted all stars/contributors

    89:Sherman Douglas
    Chucky Brown
    Doug West

    90:Toni KukocAll Star Quality/Borderline
    Greg Foster
    Bimbo Coles
    Tony Massenburg

    91: Randy Brown (11.0)
    Elliot Perry (14.0)
    Bobby Phillis (467 GP, 27.2 WS):(

    92: PJ BrownAll Star Quality/Borderline
    Matt Geiger
    Popeye Jones

    93: Lucious Harris
    Gheorghe Muresan (307 gp, 19.0 WS)
    Bryon Russell
    Chris Whitney

    94: Howard Eisley
    Michael Smith
    Voshon Lenard

    95: Andrew DeClercq
    Eric Snow
    Fred Hoiberg

    96: Othella Harrington
    Jeff McInnis
    Malik Rose
    Shandon Anderson

    97: Anthony Johnson
    Alvin Williams (460 gp, 21.7 WS)
    Mark Blount

    98: Ruben Patterson
    Rafer Alston
    Cuttino MobleyAll Star Quality/Borderline
    Greg Buckner
    Ryan Bowen (500 gp, 12.4 WS)

    99: (0 besides all-star, Manu Ginobili

    00: Eddie House
    Eduardo Najera

    01: Trenton Hassell (644 gp, 13.8 WS)
    Brian Scalabrine (520 gp, 7.6 WS)
    Earl Watson
    Bobby Simmons (466 gp, 20.1 WS)
    Jarron Collins

    02: Roger Mason (518 gp, 13.0 WS)
    Dan Gadzuric
    Matt Barnes
    Luis ScolaAll Star Quality/Borderline


    03: Jason Kapono (509 gp, 10.3 WS)
    Luke Walton (564 gp, 13.5 WS)
    Steve Blake
    Willie Green (679 gp, 13.0 WS
    Zaza Pachulia
    Keith Bogans
    Matt Bonner
    James Jones
    Kyle Korver

    04: Anderson Varejao
    Chris Duhon
    Trevor Ariza

    05: Brandon Bass
    CJ Miles
    Ersan Ilyasova
    Ronny Turiaf
    Monta EllisAll Star Quality/Borderline
    Lou Williams
    Andray Blatche
    Ryan Gomes
    Amir Johnson
    Marcin Gortat (438 gp, 32.4 WS)All Star Quality/Borderline



    This is the tricky grey area...because younger players haven't gotten to 400 games, but have a fairly high Ws/48 or WS total (over or near 15)/can achieve 15.0 WS, based on current production.

    06: Steve Novak (414 gp, 14.1 WS)
    PJ Tucker (177 gp, 9.2 WS)
    Daniel Gibson (397 gp, 16.0 WS)
    Leon Powe (239 gp, 12.0 WS)
    Ryan Hollins (435 gp, 8.5 WS)

    07: Carl Landry (407 gp, 31.0 WS)
    Glen Davis (440 gp, 17.2 WS)
    Josh McRoberts (350 gp, 17.0 WS)
    Ramon Sessions (467 gp, 22.7 WS)

    08: Nikola Pekovic (228 gp, 17.7 WS)All Star Quality/Borderline
    Mario Chalmers
    DeAndre Jordan All Star Quality/Borderline
    Omer Asik
    Luc Mbah a Moute
    Chris Douglas Roberts
    Goran Dragic All Star Quality/Borderline

    09: Dante Cunningham
    Dejuan Blair
    Jonas Jerebko
    Jodie Meeks
    Patrick Beverly

    Marcus Thornton
    Chase Budinger
    Danny Green
    Patty Mills


    10: Landry Fields
    Lance StephensonAll Star Quality/Borderline

    11: Kyle Singler
    Shelvin Mack
    Chandler ParsonsAll Star Quality/Borderline
    Jon Leuer
    Kenneth FariedAll Star Quality/Borderline
    Isaiah ThomasAll Star Quality/Borderline

    12: Draymond Green
    Khris Middleton
    Mike Scott
    Kyle O'Quinn
    *Jeff Taylor (did not come close 15.0 WS pace over 500 games)

    13: Ray McCallum
    Nate Wolters
    Ryan Kelly

    Undrafted players who appeared in 500 games or achieved 600 win shares.
    Avery Johnson (1989)
    John Starks (1989)
    Robert Pack (1991)
    David Wesley (1993)
    Bo Outlaw (1994)
    Darrell Armstrong (1995)
    Kevin Ollie (1995)
    Matt Maloney (1995) - 9.5 WS in 295 gp, 6 seasons
    Bruce Bowen (1996)
    Ben Wallace (1996/1997) - All-star/HOF likely
    Erick Strickland (1996)
    Troy Hudson (1997)
    Brad Miller (1998)
    Chris Andersen (1998/2001)
    Damon Jones (1997/1998)
    Mike James (1998/2000)
    Anthony Carter (1998)
    Earl Boykins (1999)
    Chucky Atkins (1996/1999)
    Adrian Griffin (2000)
    Raja Bell (2001)
    Carlos Arroyo (2001)
    Jamario Moon (2001/2008) - 14.3 WS in 286 gp, 7 seasons
    Andres Nocioni (2001/2006)
    Charlie Bell (2002)
    Reggie Evans (2002)
    Jose Calderon (2003/2005)
    Udonis Haslem (2004-2005)
    Chuck Hayes (2006)
    CJ Watson (2006/2007)
    JJ Barea (2006)
    Kelenna Azubuike (2006) - 9.3 WS in 208 gp, 5 seasons
    Gary Neal (2007/2011)
    Greg Stiemsma (2008/2008) - 6.0 WS in 186 gp, 5 seasons
    Timofey Mozgov (2008/2010) 6.9 WS in 212 gp, 5 seasons
    Wesley Matthews (2009/2011)
    Jeremy Lin (2010/2012)
    Pero Antic (2013)
     
  2. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    Nice list but are any of those players worth a max contract?
     
  3. thething

    thething Contributing Member

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    Kenneth Faried was a first round pick.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    16 ppg by Parsons is below Allstar quality

    He has not done it for long either
     

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