kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, Chase Budinger or Ppat or Mmorris to Portland for 6th and 11th picks. Imagine having Harrison Barnes or Bradly Beals(6), Perry Jones(11), Terrence Ross, Jeremy Lamb, or Austin Rivers(14), and Quincy Miller, or Lenard (16). Damn, our team will be so fun to watch...
I'll be really happy if we get both Austin Rivers and Quincy Miller(is his knee still not fully recovered? he is definitely a top 10 pick if he was not injured)
It's not that far-fetched, but we will likely have to give a little more, probably our 14th pick, and they add Nolan SMith to the deal. They need a PG, a scoring guard, and a center. Give them Lowry, Martin, Dalembert,14th for 6th, 11th, Nolan Smith
IIRC, the rumor was Portland wanted to trade out of the 1st round all together. So they would probably settle for Dallas' future pick instead of one from this season. Plus, they still have 2 second rounders.
I'm glad somebody else on this board besides coachbadlee agree that this kind of trade is very realistic and good for both sides.:grin:
Yup. Blazer want out of first round;they want a PG;they want a scoring guard;a center and we want some high pick(ahem....Bradley Beal). And you can add BigMaloe to that list. We were discussing almost the exact same trade on some other thread.
Because no team in the lottery era has added FIVE first round pick rookies in the same year. Minnesota had four picks in the first round in 2009 but traded one away because they knew it was not reasonable to add so many rookies in one year. (Now, that traded pick became Ty Lawson, but that's beside the point.)
I just don't see them giving up 6th pick for Lowry and fillers when Lin and Goran are free agents and they alot of cap space to go after either one. Which would you want if you're the GM of the Blazers after tanking about 30 games: Lowry and Martin or Lin/Dragic and Beal? The latter of course. Plus, that trade will only put them right back where they started; a 6th place team in West that will be a first round exit with no real direction again. Basically, if they get the 6th pick, they will either draft there or try and go higher for Beal. Once FA signing period begins, they will go after Dragic or Lin. If that plan fails, they may want Lowry but most likely not at the expense of the draftee they picked 6th. So the odds of getting that pick are very low.
well, from that perspective, it makes a lot sense not to have more than 2-3 first round picks. Sometimes, I just feel bad not having young high potential rookies on the team. It was great to see how Chandler Parsons grow through out the season.:grin:
I agree, Lin or Dragic both have higher ceiling than Lowry When taking on Lowry, you should consider some of the comments that he made recently, also with what happened in Memphis: Considering what Portland went through with Felton and Crawford, they might try to avoid these type of players. Lowry is a good player, but he has an inflated sense of worth to the team. He's not a foundation guy (nor is Kevin Martin), and the Trailblazers probably know that as well. He's not a guy who is going to put you over the top, while he could get disgruntled if someone cuts into playing time. Another thing, people do not seem to understand about Lowry. He's a poor shooter and not an excellent playmaker, nor is Martin. If the Blazers are able to get Dragic/Lin/PG draft pick (possibly), they are getting someone with playmaking skills who can shoot.
05-25-2012, 04:46 PM * #8 cdain3 Member Since: Jun 2008 Posts: 267 Member: #32385 *** Quote: Originally Posted by rockets11champs I want zeller or leonard Why? So the Rockets be softer than they already are? * No, zeller is a scorer as center and Leonard has good potential
Lowry is a starter and a foundation guy on a team. Don't understand what the big deal is with that statement. He's one of the better point guards in this league, in the world. And he's still quite young. So, he should be a starter somewhere. He's shown what he can do for a team. Most of you guys don't realize everything he brings to the table. He has been lauded here as a tremendous difference maker on a team. Morey knows it. Ademan and McHale know it. And most every coach in the NBA knows it. And some of us members know it. So, what's the big deal with Lowry stating the obvious? Dude needs to start. If he doesn't start, he's just being wasted so he should be traded. As far as not getting along with McHale, well, quite a few of us here are disappointed that McHale DID NOT retain Adelman's offense. Because we can see the efficiency of Adelman's offense and Adelman had players WANTING to play in his offense. And honestly, if McHale has an offensive system, he's going to have to adjust it for this team to win. You can't expect Goran to run around dribbling the ball all over the floor for 18 seconds of the shot clock and create you offense for 40 minutes a game. Goran played great, proved he was a legit player. But that's not championship winning basketball. I almost got the feeling watching these guys this season that McHale didn't want them running any Adelman plays just because McHale wanted them to buy him. If I'm wrong on that, then I'm wrong. But it sure appeared to me that when they ran a backdoor screen and cut and got an easy one that McHale didn't like it. While I'm on this rant.....Kevin Martin. Dude is the same player he was 2 years ago. He hasn't all of a sudden gotten worse. Even with the change in rules and him not getting the foul calls he used to get, he still draws plenty of foul calls, still gets to the FT line, and still one of the 5-7 most efficient scoring shooting guards in the league, not to mention one of the top 20 most efficient scorers in the entire league. Dude gets yanked in and out of the lineup. They got him out there playing alongside Chase at the start of the season and everybody is griping because he looks terrible defensively. McHale doesn't like his defense, blah, blah, blah. Well, guess what? Defense isn't or will ever be his strong point. Martin's strength is he is very, very efficient and productive with offensive touches, one of the most efficient and productive players in the NBA with offensive touches. So, how do you make the best use of his talent and the strength of his skillset??? You offset his weakness by surrounding him with good defenders on either side of him. McHale kept jacking around, yanking Martin, jacking around with rotations, until he finally got down to Parsons and "discoverred" that Parsons should be starting and playing major minutes. So, then he overdoes it, yanks Martin in and out, runs him off the bench, Martin gets dinged, no mercy, play on til your arm falls off son. You know, I'm sorry, there's a lot to question about McHale. One characteristic that great leaders share is when they take on a new challenge, they don't walk through the door turning everything topsy turvy. They come in, evaluate what is good, what is working, and they KEEP that and then they figure out what is not working and they start changing that. Under Adelman, we had one of the top offenses in the NBA, a thing of beauty to watch, a highly oiled efficient scoring machine with players scoring, at will sometimes, all over the court. We were a threat from everywhere. And the defenses couldn't stop us because the minute they shut down something, then something else opened up and we went running through the door like ants to sugar cubes. But, all that stopped, I mean flat-out stopped, when this season started. Here it is, a lockout shortened season, no training camp. What should you do in that situation??? GO OUT AND RUN YOUR STUFF THAT WORKED SO WELL LAST YEAR!!!!! Now, if it was just Lowry having problems with the coach, that's one thing. But it's not. It's multiple guys. And if you will notice, all of our veteran guys' games fell off this season....simultaneously. Lowry looked good early, running the helter skelter and piling up numbers like Goran piled up at the end of the season, but we had no high post offense, no real offensive system other then big guys running around setting picks for little guys to dribble around and either shoot or throw the ball to some other player out of their offensive comfort zone or force some sort of shot, and Lowry and Goran both had to expend way too much effort to be able to last and be efficient long-term. Lowry, Martin, Scola....all of them fell off the table this year. Why? Did they just lose it in one season?? Nope. And don't even tell me they all got old. Lowry just turned 26, Martin just turned 29, and Scola just turned 32. They are all in their physical primes!!! There are two reasons: Different coach, different system. That's what happened. Why didn't Lowry have a problem with Adelman? Hey, we went to the lottery Adelman's last year too. The results weren't any different. And Lowry was giving the ball up a whole lot more to Chuck in the high post and not getting nearly the touches and opportunities to score and dish that he was getting under McHale. Why wasn't Lowry upset about Adelman? And why was Lowry upset along with the WHOLE TEAM when we let Adelman walk?????? So, now Martin's trade value is in the trash can. We won't get what we could get out of him in trade. And he'll undoubtedly go somewhere else and throw in about 22 a game shooting 45/42/85. And we're gonna be stuck trying to figure out if the next young fella is gonna turn into a good player. And Adelman is in Minny building another offensive juggernaut. Lowry and Martin are players that want to play winning basketball, that want to be a part of a winning tradition being built. They are team players, guys, not selfish punks. Lowry gave his heart and soul to this organization. Martin gave us everything he could. I don't blame them for wanting out. And you shouldn't either.
