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Chad Ford's Re-drafting the Lottery Picks from the 2021 NBA Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ickaruto, Jan 27, 2022.

  1. D-rock

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    Many posters (and perhaps even Rockets FO) simply fail to accept or even realize this.

    And Rockets need a potentially GREAT defender to compensate for those 2 players IMO.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    So FT's and 4 fluke games are the best indication, not the 33 game sample taken as a whole?

    Seems fair.
     
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  3. Nook

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    I don't think he will ever be a good defender, I just don't think he has the strength, length or defensive awareness. I think that he can be average with a lot of hard work. He doesn't have a great defensive IQ, but in fairness some of that is the defense is just an absolute inexcusable mess at this point. Assignments are being blown at such a high rate that sometimes it is hard to know who to blame.

    I look at this roster and Josh Christopher has the physical skill set and attitude to be a good defender, but he is most likely going to be a bench player. Tate is older and I don't think that he will be extended and will be a free agent soon enough. There just isn't a lot of defensive upside on this roster with younger players.

    Green and Sengun are limited defensively and we are hoping that they play major roles long term on this team........ we really need some players that can play both sides of the court and don't have that. We need to get lucky in the draft and get someone like Holmgren, Smith or Ivey and even then we will need more..... Holmgren can anchor a defense as long as we don't do what the Jazz did with Gobbert and surround him with poor defenders.... Smith will at least be a good defender that can switch, and Ivey would allow Green to defend the weaker player in backcourt assignments.

    I know the rebuild is early but really it has been flawed early IMO.
     
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  4. Nook

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    He has to actually do it, but there is research that shows a strong correlation between high free throw percentages and shooting from the floor percentages over time. IMO the issue isn't that Green cannot shoot, he has a soft touch and can shoot.... the issue is his mechanics, he doesn't seem to keep them long term. That is something that he really needs to work on. Having said that, it's fair to say he hasn't shown he is a good shooter over the course of a full season yet.
     
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    Full disclosure, it's not only my hope, but my belief that Green will eventually figure it out and turn into a solid or better shooter.

    I just don't want to talk about players as if they have developed before it actually happens. The "what happens if they don't" side of the arguement urges caution that I yield to more often than not.
     
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    Why would the Rockets not take BPA with the lottery pick?
     
  7. D-rock

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    Rockets got lucky with Sengun, rest of draft is TBD.

    Otherwise, the rebuild has been shyte at worst, a muddle at best.

    The FO and coaching staff really do not appear to know what they are doing or perhaps just how to execute their so-called plan.

    *Dipo was coveted focal player in Harden trade then offered extension after underperforming.

    *Low FRP was preferred over Jarrett Allen (who will not be All Star starter, but will be an All Star).

    *Theis was signed for 3 years as such expected to be a critical element of rebuild, instead of re-signing Olynyk who had career revitalization with Rockets and proved compatible with Wood as well as Rockets system.

    I have zero faith in Stone's player evaluations (FA or draft) and even less faith in Silas system or coaching abilities.

    Rockets offense is hit or miss while Rockets defense has been a nightmare. Part of that is player execution and system fit but coaching matters as well.

     
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    Because like you, Rockets wouldn't know BPA even if it bit them on the arse.
     
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    Quick Stathead.com query (Games played >300, Minutes per game >25) for players from 2001 to now:

    -The top 10 players from this query yielded an average career FG% of 45.5% and a career 3PT% of 40%

    -Looking at the FT% range near where Green's FT% is at right now (~83%), the players from this range (FT% 83% - 83.9%) the average career FG% is 44.5% and career 3PT% is 35%. Within this range, the Min FG% was 40.2% (Jason Williams), Max FG% is 46.2% (Derozan). Min 3PT% is 28.4% (Derozan) and Max 3PT% is 38.5% (Cuttino Mobley)

    Funny thing about it is that the guy most have compared Green with is riiiiight there in the next tier below 83% :

    Zach Lavine:
    Career FT%: 82.9%
    Career FG%: 46%
    Career 3PT%: 38.7%
    Rookie FT%: 84%
    Rookie FG%: 42%
    Rookie 3PT%: 34%
     
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    The nerve of him not to put Sengun #1.. Has he not been watching those scattered 3 or 4 minutes of HOF worthy play? Lol
     
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    Rent free in your head.
     
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    :D

    I own you and you know it.
     
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  13. dmoneybangbang

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    They got lucky they identified Sengun and then made a trade to get him? No, they accurately identified Sengun's talent and got him.

    Theis's $9 million per year contract was never a "critical element of the rebuild", that's just hyperbole you are using because you are upset you aren't the GM.

    Dipo's extension was mere formality that he was never going to pick up. It would look bad optically if the Rockets got Dipo and didn't even offer him an extension. No?

    We are literally just one year after the Harden rebuild with our foot still in the Harden era and your expectations are out of whack.

    Tilman is really the one you should be angry with.
     
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    Welcome to the age of the Amazon Prime fan!
     
  15. D-rock

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    Tilly was on top of my shyte list from day one.

    But you keep sticking your head in the sand for the rest of it, I know reality hurts your head.
     
  16. NewAge

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    OK there was a plot, which many miss.
    There was no commitment for a full tear down after the Harden trade. That’s a fact, it was communicated (in Stone’s awkward manner). So he went for the 2x All-Star in Dipo; In fact we had a roster with 3 multiple All-Stars, which is actually very rare in Rockets history. Plus we had Wood, Gordon, a mature rookie in Tate, House… that was not a tear down roster.

    The big problem was that all our All Stars (Wall, Boogie, Dipo) were injury reclamation projects, and none actually got anywhere close to their past selves. Was that again the medical staff cluelessness? Was it just bad luck? I dunno… But that’s the story, and the moves around the Harden trade made sense in that context.

    Once Dipo/Boogie bombed and Wall was just semi-OK, they pivoted to a full tear down.
     
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    So we got apologists now for the more than abysmal offseason that Stone delivered?

    Soldier on, brother. :eek:
     
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    His Mechanics has changed from High School, to G-League, to beginning of the season and then again after his injury. I saw a video somewhere there was a effort to switch his shot from 2 motion to 1 motion in order to get more range on his 3's.

    He actually shot his best in the G-League when his high jumping high Arcing shot. But they don't seem to like him doing that anymore

    I feel like all this constant tweaking needs to end at some point, His shot looked great for those 10 games after his injury, but looked really bad in the past month. I am almost worried the coaching staff might not know what the hell they are doing.
     
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  19. Verbal Christ

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    Stone is an idiot for drafting Green, but a savant for drafting Sengun? This place is devolving into a sht posters dream!
     
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    I prefer reality over alternate realities and Theis was never an integral part of that.
     

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