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[ch2] McGrady will shut it down, if...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Faos, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. mmesser

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    that just makes me wanna cry! :(
     
  2. declan32001

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    Normally I'd attack this, but I do believe you're expressing an opinion that exists somewhere within the organization.

    The initial reports about T-Mac's back were one thing when the season started. Then we heard that his latest injury which wasn't related to earlier problems and was not chronic and neither was the original condition. But surgery was an option. :confused:

    I can go into the realm of abstraction and grab "what is, is" but damned if I can come up with an alternate definition for chronic. How is the first condition suddenly not chronic and the reult of his fall is not chronic either, and then he gets back out on the floor? Then he gets more extensive tests?

    This isn't the 60's and T-Mac pulls in serious jack, and the Rockets expect me to believe they risked his health for a longshot run for the 8th seed?

    I've followed this franchise since it came to Houston. I've seen and heard BS but the organization always used to get nailed for it pretty quickly and also always quickly responded to it.

    Now there's this strange haze floating around the franchise and ESPN T-Mac for KG rumors. WTF?

    I think Les is wigging out and the organization along with it. I'm saying prayers for JVG's wife and children. And I'm waiting for Blinebury or Robertson to call BS so Les can reassure us of - something.

    Love my Rockets but other than Yao and Les I'm uncertain about everything. I take that back, I'm uncertain about Les.
     
  3. emjohn

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    If I were McGrady's trainer/doctor, I'd be telling him the exact same thing, if not to shut it down for the year regardless.

    -->Even if he comes back to start April, he won't be the McGrady we want to see. He will play like he has an ironing board in his back, just like his crappy February.

    -->Chances are through the roof that he will make things worse - and with a bulging disc, it's almost certain it will begin to slip. If he has to have back surgery for this, you may kiss the old McGady good-bye. The other two prominent players I know of that had back surgery in their careers are Loy Vaught and Larry Johnson. Both times they went from All-Star talents to stiffs.

    Is it really worth it this season? Even in the unlikely scenario we sneak into the 8 seed, are we going to do anything against the Spurs or Mavs?

    Euthanize this season.

    Evan
     
  4. emjohn

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    Every organization in pro sports lies to our collective faces in regard to injuries. It's always a minor thing until after the fact. You could get shot in the chest, and they'd say that you'll be out 6 weeks.

    No franchise would admit that a player has a chronic issue - it would freak out the fanbase and they know it. A bulging disc, though, is not something that will go away on its own and will only get worse. There's a remote chance they'll take care of it without surgery, but I'm personally pessimistic.

    Evan
     
  5. Rocket River

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    The 1st thought was. . how about playing for the FANS
    I mean seriously . . .folx bought season tickets to watch him play

    But Actually. . . I can see him sit it down but
    It seems eerily similar to him sitting out those last 20 games in Orlando

    honestly .. . like the dallas game 7
    when we were out of it. . . so was Tmac
    IMO
    He is not a fight to the end type. . he is a fight until it looks lost type
    Then he just packs it in . . .

    Rocket River
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    There's a HUGE difference between 20 meaningless games and 4 or 5 meaningless games. What if he played the last game against SA (with us being long since eliminated) and he tweeked his back again? That could set his summer rehabilitation back months. And for what? So the corporate season ticket holders could watch him play for a game and then leave during the 4th quarter?

    I'll bet if it were Yao Ming in the same situation, there would be a 20 page thread about JVG forcing him to come back for 4 meaningless games before he's ready.
     
  7. GRENDEL

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    No kidding, I've already read quite a few post saying that JVG runs his players to hard in practice and blah, blah, blah.... If we are out of it at the end, T-mac should sit, it'll be better for everyone in the long run.

    I think this concept of T-mac quitting is so absurd and really shows how quicky some fans can turn on any player
     
  8. Rocket River

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    Yao would play
    they practically had to strap him down with his toe falling off.

    but . . . in the end. . . we will see

    Rocket River
     
  9. jevjnd

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    That's the most asinine statement that I've ever heard. The guy's one step away from reaggrivating his injury yet again this year and making it a chronic problem; but you want him to do that? You have several trained medical professionals advising that he get some rest, and you want to counter that for an unlikely miracle? This isn't him not coming back in the game because a play's not being called for him or something, this is potentially life-altering, get a clue.

     
  10. tigermission1

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    Well not most fans, but the 'usual suspects' as I like to call them.

    We need pgabriel to chime in and call him a quitter and then the circle will be complete.

    All I can say to RR is this: I am SOOOO glad you're not in a position of power within the organization...you would be the type that rushes Amare back for the rest of the season only to see him reaggrevate his injury and ruin his career for good. I am glad you're nowhere near McGrady at this point. Seriously, get a grip!

    As for the most recent article, may be you guys should read it first before you comment on it. It clearly states that he can't do anything 'physical' for FIVE WEEKS, which means he would need to put in some practice/conditioning time afterwards before stepping on the court, at which point the season will be long over.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    Hmm...toe injury (nail injury is more like it, something EASILY correctable by surgery and resting afterwards, which Yao got) as opposed to a back injury...Hmm, yah, they're about equal :rolleyes:
     
  12. Rocket River

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    for the record. . .
    I said McGrady should have taken as long as he needed of
    BEFORE he came back from the LAST stint off.
    I wanted him to come back and be 100%

    but he came back . . .and he is hurt again
    no worries

    If a employee is sick/injured 4 days [monday= thursday]. .
    why not take off the 5th
    make it a even week
    I'm not saying he faking. . I'm not saying he should rush back
    I am saying .. if you can play . . play

    Should Wesley shut it down too?



    Rocket River
    Why not.
     
  13. Rivaldo2181

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    I was being sarcastic that he was quitting. I was basically saying that the season is pretty much lost at this point and him coming back after 5 weeks and us out the playoffs would be pointless. Why have him play meaningless games. Look at the article, he clearly has no choice on coming back. The doctors ordered him not to do anything physical for 5 weeks!
     
  14. Aceshigh7

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    This is just wrong on T-Mac's part.

    Charles Barkley sustained a major knee injury and had already made his retirement plans known. He could have just called it a day. Instead, he busted his ass in rehab in order to make it back for the last game of the season. That's heart. T-Mac should take a cue from Sir Charles.
     
  15. emjohn

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    Barkley didn't want the last game of his CAREER to end with him on a stretcher.

    McGrady wants to reload for next year if, come April with ~6 games left, we're out of it. In mid-April, McGrady will NOT be 100% and in game form. He would run a HIGH risk of worsening his nerve/disc issue.

    He really should have said: I'm supposed to be done for the season, but if we're in the fight with a couple games left, I'm going to show up and play even if it's the dumb thing to do.

    Anyone calling him a quitter for this needs to read up on herniated discs.

    Evan
     
  16. tigermission1

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    LMAO! Sorry, but let me make sure I got this: you're comparing an over-the-hill player with an expiring contract after this season to a franchise player whom the team has four more years max money invested in?

    Are you on crack, RR?
     
  17. McGradySNKT

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    Seriously Tiger. All of these "Trade Mcgrady Only Fans" and calling him a quitter i guess their tv sets were broken.

    The guy has a swollen tailbone and cant do anything until it heals. His back has not spasmed yet I keep seeing people post that it did. I dont know if you guys have crust in your eyes, or just refuse to believe the truth.

    Trade Yao, now trade Tmac. I sure wish I could see this kind of collective outrage for trash like bowen and and the management for picking up cheap short old and non shooting players. Not making any trades at the deadline to help, even allowing Tmac to play here 2 years and not get the guy a backup.

    Seriously, i've seen some of the worst fans of the nba come out and gang up on the guy when he's down. Its at best GREAT that none of you people are within 10 feet of the players.
     
  18. Rocket River

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    My point is .. if we are conceding the season
    Should we not sit Wesley as well .. . develop the other players
    I mean . .what is the point of him coming back?

    Rocket River
    Crack is Wack - Whitney Houston
     
  19. McGradySNKT

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    That point doesnt stick. Tmac is far more important that Wesley is to this organization. No way you should even equate those two on the same level.

    Wesley is a guy who should've been traded long ago anyhow
     
  20. WinkFan

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    Charles obviously did that just for himself. He was of no value to the team at that point, and he had no future to worry about.
     

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