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[ch 2] Van Gundy gets extension

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Faos, May 18, 2005.

  1. edc

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    The head coach has the final word on player-personnel decisions with the Rockets. It was the case under RT, and according to everybody (including CD and JVG), it continues to be the case.

    I cannot speak with certainty about the New York years, but it is surely not coincidence that JVG has brought *exactly* the same sorts of "grizzled veterans" to the Rockets that he had during his Knicks years.
     
  2. dandorotik

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    Umm, whatever. Look, I'm not going to lie and say I'm good friends with Rudy T., but I have had the opportunity to meet him on several occasions; when I was a teacher at Cypress Creek High School, he had summer camps at the school b/c Otis Thorpe's niece was a sophomore there and they were on good terms with the basketball coaches- I met him then and also at several of the Rockets' pre-season parties (including the one in 1994 when he said he felt it was going to be a very good year). I was fortunate enough to speak with him several times, and bottom line is that the man is as good as it gets in the NBA. I also read Phil Jackson's book The Last Season and got a sense for what makes him a good coach. So it's not like I have anything personal against those coaches, and I don't mention Rudy T. to namedrop, but to make a point:

    The measure of a good coach in this league is not only by championships. Otherwise, coaches like Jerry Sloan, Rick Carlisle, and Jeff Van Gundy would not be considered great. San Antonio fans would kill me if I said this, but I don't think Greg Popovich is any better of a coach than Sloan. At times, I don't think he's all that great. Same with K.C. Jones.

    When it all comes down to it, it really doesn't matter what you or I think. If the players and management like the job he's doing, he's going to stay. If EDC implies that JVG is not a good coach or is not the best coach for this team, and the players, CD, and LA feel otherwise, I'll feel fine taking their word for it.

    NEXT!
     
  3. dandorotik

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  4. GATER

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    Anonymous Poster: I know the sky is green.
    Gater: No, I'm pretty sure the sky is blue
    AP: No, it's not. It's green and I see it as green all of the time.
    Gater: Are you sure about that. When was the last time the sky was green.
    AP: Well, it was green alot back in the mid 90's and it's really green now and getting worse. Especially in the spring.
    Gater: I don't know much about the 90's but I haven't seen a green sky that I can recall in the past 3 years.
    AP: Well, then you're stupid.
    Gater: Well, let's not get personal but I'm really, really, really sure the sky is blue. I've seen statistics...er....pictures of lots of blue skies.
    AP: That's only because those picture were taken on blue sky days. The sky is green and I'm going to keep proving the sky is green until you and the clowns who agree with you wake up and admit it.


    In a stroke of genius, Gater moves Anonymous Poster to the ignore list.
     
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  5. edc

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  6. edc

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    This is very odd.
    Assuming

    "green" = "championship"
    and "blue" = "losing in the first round",

    then you are much better off with green than blue, and the Rockets right now are much closer to blue than green...
     
  7. macfan

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    List the coaches that fit your unfounded criteria

    While some may say Jeff Van Gundy "proved himself" in New York, I disagree. [/QUOTE]

    Do you also disagree with the fact that the earth is round?
     
  8. edc

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    To state the obvious, Phil Jackson has clearly won AND he played in the league. Fancy that.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Unfortunate.

    Great troll baiting act though. It's not funny, original, or amusing in the slightest, but it is working. You're sort of like the Jeff Van Gundy of GARM trolls.
     
  10. edc

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    What did Jeff Van Gundy prove in New York? That he can coach a team to second best every time the NBA plays a shortened lockout season? Given that criteria, we'd better hope they don't get the labor issues settled until January.
     
  11. Rule0001

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    CRACKA NUTZ ALL UP IN YO GRILL EDC

    (CRACK)
     
  12. edc

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    Sorry, I have no clue as to the meaning behind your slang.
     
  13. macfan

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    He's going to do to you what T-Mac did to Shawn Bradley. You have to spew less hate and catch up on the basketball lingo
     
  14. dandorotik

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    Did the lockout season affect the number of playoff games played?

    Answer: No.

    Inference: Each team had an equal chance to win the championship.
     
  15. dandorotik

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    What Jeff Van Gundy proved is that he can take an average to above-average team to the NBA Finals. Tell me, when was the last time PJ did this? His only opportunity thus far to accomplish this feat was in 1994, and he did not succeed.
     
  16. NewYorker

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    edc, you have me on the same side as David S, Macfan, and Sir Jackie Child....

    I don't find that humorous to the least....please give up the witch-hunt of JVG until you have a legitimate case....

    Right now, his players are behind him as well as the owner. What's the point in your posts?
     
  17. edc

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    Did the lockout season affect the number of regular season games played?

    Answer: Yes

    Inference: An older team would be less likely to be worn down by the rigors of the regular season.
     
  18. edc

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    Actually, I put you together with DavidS and Faos. Any other similarity is strictly your own doing.
     
  19. dandorotik

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    Right, and any team with Shaquille has an unfair advantage because of his size, and any team that plays against the Phoenix Suns has a disadvantage because they run faster- what a pathetic, weak argument.


    Q: If Michael Jordan didn't retire, would the Rockets have won 2 championships?
    A from Many: No.

    Fine, we can argue semantics and "what-ifs" all day long, Johnnie Cochran. Let's not look at the playoff games we won this year, let's look at one loss. Let's not look at the fact that Philip Jackson couldn't win a championship with one of the best lineups in history, or couldn't win one in 1994 when he didn't have an unfair advantage- blah, blah, blah.

    You know, it matters nothing anymore. Even if JVG leads us to a championship, it won't matter because EDC will find something to find fault with:
     
  20. Rule0001

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    infact edc, what's your point in posting?

    this reminds me of the lame ass thread of FIRE JVG that lasted forever, and I'm sure this one will too as long as edc the troll keeps it alive.
     

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